Re-makes, Remastered, etc More organization needed.

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Re-makes, Remastered, etc More organization needed.

Post by ~Chrono~ » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:19 pm

Hi, I want to say that It would be nice to organize the AMV's that have been remastered or re-maked. A new "script" if thats how its called to form a group of the MV that have been done more that 1 time and in their next versions they were fixed, improved, whatever following an idea in common.
For ex, I would enter a profile and 1 title may have like 2 or 3 versions of the same AMV. So as not to create a new one with another name and enter it again, let's put them all in the same place with the same name.
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Post by Tsunami Jones » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:22 pm

~Chrono~ wrote:So as not to create a new one with another name and enter it again
You don't have to make a new entry. You can request deletion of the current local file and re-upload to the same place.

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Post by ~Chrono~ » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:10 pm

But that's only the case if what you have done is re-encoding into a better version regarding quality, space, etc. If you change or add scenes, then its considered another entry, or thats what I've been told.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:04 pm

Remade videos are ones that contain diferent scenes, effects, or timing. Remastered videos just contined fixed footage (better quality).

For a remaster, you'd be better just to replace the video, but the progression idea is kind of an odd subject. Ideally, the org wants people to be finished with their vidos before before uploading them, meaning there shouldn't be multiple versions of the same video hosted on the site. If there is, that means you wern't done to begin with. We all see the diferent versions of the same video here now and again, but it think the admins would prefer to not have multiple coppies of the same video hosted on site. If you provide your own offsite hosting of videos that arn't your final video that might work. And i think the admins wouldn't be adverse to it.
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Re: Re-makes, Remastered, etc More organization needed.

Post by Arigatomina » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:20 pm

~Chrono~ wrote:For ex, I would enter a profile and 1 title may have like 2 or 3 versions of the same AMV. So as not to create a new one with another name and enter it again, let's put them all in the same place with the same name.
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Sounds nice.

If you only change a few small scenes in an amv, it is *technically* a remake. You have to make a new description and consider it a new video. It would be nice if there were a way to connect these 'new' vids with the originals.

But like Bashar mentioned, they don't want to encourage remakes - you're supposed to have it perfect the first time around. That way people only put up 'finished/final' versions. Making it easy to list remakes would encourage remakes - they don't want that.

You can still put links in the vid descriptions taking people back to the original, or over to the new version. That's about as good as you'd get with site involvement - a link between the vid pages. I really can't see them offering multiple versions on local for the same video. It would be too open for abuse.

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:57 pm

BTW this is a frequently asked question and is hence answered in the Site FAQ :)

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:10 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:BTW this is a frequently asked question and is hence answered in the Site FAQ :)
Wow! i was wondering why i knew those things. heh...
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Post by OtakuOutpost » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:57 pm

I have a question about the remaster policy.

What about previous opinions? Each one rates the 'video' and 'audio' quality of the AMV. These opinions would be measuring against the previous available download, not the higher quality (hopefully) remaster.

I am asking cause I finally got around to remastering a video I made back in 00 which suffered from severe quality issues. The remaster is visually lossless to the source (Final Fantasy VII).

The old encode has 18 opinions. I don't want to lose those opinions, but I also don't want the video quality and audio quality scores from those reviews to apply to it. That is my dillemma with the remaster policy.

This video does not have a minor quality upgrade, it has a major quality upgrade. Admins, please see for yourself:

Original .org encode: http://nago.animemusicvideos.org/locald ... .php?v=572

Lossless Remaster:
http://www.otakuoutpost.com/videos/Otak ... aster).avi

Any ideas how to deal with the audio/video quality issues?

One idea is to update the video and then email a bunch of people to update thier scores. Problem in this case is most of the opinions were made 4 years ago. I doubt I could contact half of them.

Another idea would be to list it as a separate video and then set the old version on the org to some kind of read only mode. This policy would explode video counts.

Anybody got any better ideas?
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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:08 pm

I've had the same problem myself. Really, the only thing to do is to leave comments on older opinions asking if they have time to check out the new version and apdate their opinion.

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