Originality can be a spiritual problem?

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Post by [Mike of the Desert] » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:04 am

This is a text I wrote at school without actually have the forum there, so I wrote without read nothing :P

The originality problem is often heavily discussed in the org, and analizing how many Naruto videos I made I felt strange during the work of another one and I still feel like this, but I also thought about some people said, that I think as really true, and of course every video I made have a totally different concept and always a different way of edit, and every video I made is a video where I improved a little on something, so even if I personally hae this feelings during the work of my last work (still in making of), my general points on originality are pretty high^^ Sometimes I would really change anime, but I can't buy online because of my age (16 :/), and with all this I liver in a place without shops and withot a speedy connection. So I should even feel lucky with what I have now, but luckily thanks to my girlfriend I'm getting new footage as I will get soon the anime of Hellsing, so maybe I'll be able to work on new footage soon! Anyway on to o fall, I don't want to make mad someone or to irritate abyone with posts like this, omg this is a forum and I use this possibility to discuss some argoments^^ It should not be a problem!!

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Anyway thanks to all for your answers^^ I really appreciated all of them and I find me quoting completely the thoughts of genestarwind21122 and of Arigatomina that I want to completely quote here because I quote him completely and is actually the mirror of my thinkings :P Thanks for post here your opinion^_^


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requiett wrote:You gotta have some serious dementia coming on here and complaining about lack of originality after making TWELVE Naruto videos.
Not necessarily. It's a very long anime, with a lot of characters who are given extensive footage to work with. The number of different takes or stories a single editor can do with that anime is unlimited. Now, if it's 12 Naruto vids focused on Naruto (only him), then it might be harder to find a new spin. But there's still a wide variety of footage *just* for him, too much to fit into a single normal-length video.

/so says the YYH enthusiast

I've never had this problem myself. I make vids that I want to see, that no one else will make for me (or that I can't find). It doesn't matter how many takes I do on a single concept - if no one else is doing anything at all similar, then every single one of those takes will be original. There are a lot of YYH vids, but I've done over 20 that are entirely original within the collective. I could do 20 more to that same anime, and I still won't find another editor with anything similar to my videos. It's not the anime that makes something unoriginal, unless every single video concept for that anime has already been done.

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If you get bored watching your vid, or if you feel like it's unoriginal, then it's because you've tapped yourself out on that source. Maybe you've already used all of your favorite scenes, or have seen similar concepts in other videos and don't feel interested in doing your own take on those concepts. If you're bored by the video before it's even finished, then that's the perfect reason not to make it.

If you're feeling down because other people *tell* you it's boring and unoriginal, then you're not making vids for yourself. In that case, do what your viewers tell you to and quit. I'd recommend taking a poll or watching the faves lists so you don't waste your time on things your viewers aren't interested in. I'd also recommend charging them to watch your vids - if you're working for them, you should get paid for the work.
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Post by Scandia » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:56 am

I mainly aim for high originality. As in "I like this anime. I like this song. They work well together. I have not seem them mixed together. So I'll do an AMV of it." I sure do not aim for technological or editing prowess.

Therefore, I seek originality in the AMVs I download as well. Or at least having an anime and/or song I like.

So even if the footage looks superb, the audio sounds like the orchestra is playing right in front of me, and the editing and effects are a technological achievement....if the AMV is of Naruto/Cowboy Bebop/EVA/DBZ or to Evanescence/Linkin Park, you bet I won't be as likely to download it, won't rate it high in originality/re-viewability. Plus I will probably be stricter in grading other aspects that if it were a favorite or a lesser done song/series.

If you use text, that adds originality. Not to mention it helps in videos with anime that are not super well known. I am not just saying it from one I did, but also another one a user who reviewed mine did. The text did help as well, since the anime she used was not a super popular one.

Even if you are using a popular anime, there are some original concepts. Examples include two videos I saw at Megacon 2005's AMV contest. There was a Naruto Beavis and Butthead video, as well as an EVA Jesus Christ Superstar AMV. I enjoyed both, even though I am otherwise fed up with Naruto and EVA AMVs.

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Post by OmniStrata » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:22 am

Don't worry too much about Originality.

My definition of originality is anime/song combination. It's very logical, very simplistic. It's not what everyone uses though so...

If something ends up being unoriginal, you just have to work harder on making the video better.

Originality is one of many factors that make a good video. Since it's 3rd highest average here at the org, you don't have to worry too much.
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Post by requiett » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:17 am

OH NO. THE FLAWS WERE INHERENT IN THE WHOLE PROCESS ALL ALONG. :shock:

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Post by Otohiko » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:05 pm

As someone who has been repeatedly accused of being original, I'll simply say that originality has never actually been a factor for me. Doing something that you feel is right and needs to be done is > than cheap originality.
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Post by godix » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:21 pm

Is it just me or does anyone else find it ironic that the person who tried passing off an animated gif as 'original animation' and got called on it in the videos announcement thread (not that he ever bothered corrected the videos description or anything even though he's had several months to do so) is now asking about originality?
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