Originality can be a spiritual problem?

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Post by requiett » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:18 am

You gotta have some serious dementia coming on here and complaining about lack of originality after making TWELVE Naruto videos. This site's gonna be beating a dead horse before it's even had the chance to be ridden. You want to be original... grab the obscurest shit you can find. For example, mix Strawberry Eggs to Freezepop's music or something. It's great to ride the wave of approval when you have Linkin Park and Naruto to carry you through. You can only put yourself to the test when you're working with unfamiliar substances. And the fact you probably downloaded all your source material is no excuse for getting more, since Bittorrent is loaded with anime. Or you can do what I do most of the time, and either buy, or as in most cases rent anime from Blockbuster [or whatever rental stores you have]. I bear you no malice. It's just that posts like these really irk me, especially if the poster put no real forethought into it. Good luck with future endeavors. =\

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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:45 pm

requiett wrote:You gotta have some serious dementia coming on here and complaining about lack of originality after making TWELVE Naruto videos.
Not necessarily. It's a very long anime, with a lot of characters who are given extensive footage to work with. The number of different takes or stories a single editor can do with that anime is unlimited. Now, if it's 12 Naruto vids focused on Naruto (only him), then it might be harder to find a new spin. But there's still a wide variety of footage *just* for him, too much to fit into a single normal-length video.

/so says the YYH enthusiast

I've never had this problem myself. I make vids that I want to see, that no one else will make for me (or that I can't find). It doesn't matter how many takes I do on a single concept - if no one else is doing anything at all similar, then every single one of those takes will be original. There are a lot of YYH vids, but I've done over 20 that are entirely original within the collective. I could do 20 more to that same anime, and I still won't find another editor with anything similar to my videos. It's not the anime that makes something unoriginal, unless every single video concept for that anime has already been done.

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If you get bored watching your vid, or if you feel like it's unoriginal, then it's because you've tapped yourself out on that source. Maybe you've already used all of your favorite scenes, or have seen similar concepts in other videos and don't feel interested in doing your own take on those concepts. If you're bored by the video before it's even finished, then that's the perfect reason not to make it.

If you're feeling down because other people *tell* you it's boring and unoriginal, then you're not making vids for yourself. In that case, do what your viewers tell you to and quit. I'd recommend taking a poll or watching the faves lists so you don't waste your time on things your viewers aren't interested in. I'd also recommend charging them to watch your vids - if you're working for them, you should get paid for the work.

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Post by badmartialarts » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:34 pm

requiett wrote:....mix Strawberry Eggs to Freezepop's music or something. ...
Mmmm, that might work....:)
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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:47 pm

If originally is so hard then why is the Originality score the 3rd highest average score after Sound Quality and Effort?

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:51 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:If originally is so hard then why is the Originality score the 3rd highest average score after Sound Quality and Effort?
Because some of us don't like coasting on pure damn luck?
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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:55 pm

[paizuri: Text deleted.] I'll just add that the only person that decides if something is original or not is the viewer, not the creator - so in this regard originality is entirely in the opinion of others. A creator who thinks their work is original when everyone else thinks it is derivative is probably being naive.

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Post by downwithpants » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:12 pm

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it happens. sometimes a few days break helps. sometimes unfortunately you have to scrap the project.

do realize that originality is not necessary for an enjoyable video.
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My two cents on originality...

Post by paizuri » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:21 pm

Originality is not the hallmark of a good video and probably never will be. This isn't to say that an original concept won't add to the video, but it could just as easily detract from it. There are plenty of ideas that seem wonderfully innovative on paper but fall flat during execution. Likewise, there are plenty of videos which you probably enjoy greatly but would be hard-pressed to call original.
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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:29 pm

/if we're discussing originality as it applies to reviews

I tend to score higher in originality than other areas because I watch some strange videos, and I go out of my way to find videos that do things most don't (one-of-a-kind vids that use non-canon things or focus on underappreciated characters/aspects). I've seen a lot of videos, so I really have to search to find ones I consider original. But now I'm more likely to review the ones I consider original, hence my high score given for that category. To me, it's as simple as "have I seen this?" If I picked the vid, chances are good I haven't seen it - and that's why I downloaded it.

Most reviewers probably haven't seen a large enough variety of vids to tell if something's original or not. Everything is original when you haven't watched anything yet. It would be interesting to know how many of the total reviews are given by people who've downloaded less than 50 videos, let alone reviewed that many.

I wouldn't compare it to the Effort score - that's a fuzzy category at best. Who am I to say you didn't work hard enough on your video? I wasn't there. Sound is easier to score, based solely on how good your hearing is. Did you pick up that slight crackle there? No? Then it's fine.

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Post by requiett » Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:15 am

Quit falling back on statistics, all of you. :P

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