Does a re-make take away from originality? [SPLIT]

[kitsunebeolnet]

To take this thread on a slightly different tack -

Does anyone think that a 're-make' of a video takes away from the originallity of the first one? I had some good ideas in my early videos but my execution stunk. I'm hesitant to re-do my videos because I usually got good originallity scores in opinions and think doing a video over would be beating a dead horse.

Prime example - Naota had a pimple: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=40360

[AquaSky]

I wouldn't think so. If you want to improve one of your older videos, go for it. I've gone back and tweaked mine plenty. You can't always get it perfect the first time around; it's often after you've watched it for a long time that you start picking up on the areas that need improvement.

[Otohiko]

Originality in what sense?

There's certainly different measures of originality, and most of them are subjective.

Personally, and as far as marks, I wouldn't mark down a remake of someone's own earlier idea.

[Arigatomina]

I've marked down for a remake. >.<

The original video featured things that were *not* original (song, anime, scene selection, story, the entire combination had more than 3 vids already featuring almost the exact same thing) - I gave the original vid a 7 for originality (being really generous).

Then he remade it.

Nothing was changed except he added flashes and shifted the editing a bit - no new scenes, no difference in the concept itself. Having already watched the exact same thing once, it was even more redundant the second time. I gave it a 6.

Of course, I wouldn't have reviewed the remake if the person hadn't asked me to - and I did warn him I'd drop the originality if it was the same as the first one as far as scene selection goes. He didn't care since the only reason he remade it was to work on his cuts and general editing - he knew the horse was dead, he just wanted to play with it a little.

[godix]

Depends on how original the idea was. Someone who's making their own Harry Potter story using nothing but Curse of the Overfiend for source is of course going to require more reworking to get it right than someone making yet another linkenballz vid. So if I'd rather the idea highly for originality I'll cut some slack and rate the remake the same however an unoriginal idea is just going to get even more unoriginal when remaking it.

[pen-pen2002]

If it was the same idea I certainly wouldn't mark them down. To take an easy example. "Senshi on Springer" was a very original idea. If the creator wanted to re-make it, chage a scene here or there, re time it, ect. It's still an original idea. If someone else made a Springer video, or if the creator made a "Naruto on Oprah" video, that would be slightly less original.

I think the real question is that of changing values within the comunity. If someone asked you tomorrow to op their video, which was the first LinkinballZ video ever, would you lower the score because of the 5 million subsequent videos in that genre?

[Arigatomina]

If someone asked you tomorrow to op their video, which was the first LinkinballZ video ever, would you lower the score because of the 5 million subsequent videos in that genre?

I take premiere date into account when I do reviews. I take *everything* on the vid description page into account when I do a review. If the person says his was the first video for a combination, I'll take him at his word (with a few exceptions - if I've seen an earlier vid myself).

An original idea is only original until someone else does it. I know. I did the first two YYH/Linkin Park amvs on the site. Now there are dozens and I get low originality for doing the combination (not just for LP, for the combination). To me, they were original. Now they aren't. If I reviewed them, I'd take them as they were when they were made, not as they are compared to the more recent videos.

[genestarwind21122]

I don't think it would get marked down that much because you originally did the idea I would give it the a little lower if not the same. I mean I did Shrine of the Goddess (1:38 version) and then did Shrine of the Goddess 2 (3:00 + version) and it has almost the same originality.

[FoxJones]

Same thing with me and Ducktoy.. I did the first shortened version when I was still at skill level "hey, I wonder what this button does..". Of course the result was not really what I hoped for and when the time was right I did the full lenght version "Ducktoy Complete" *snicker* and I think that's the best one from me so far ^-^
So if you think you can improve your old AMV enough.. go for it. It's still YOUR AMV-idea.