Windows Movie Maker... Then what?

cmdshft · Post by **cmdshft** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:25 am

Well, I have the first 20 secs of my vid completed... and I began to wonder... what should I do when its done? How do I compress a WMM's finished project? I have downloaded and installed the AMVapp and the Advanced package. How should I use them when I am done with the vid and its ready for Audio sync and compression?

~Buu~

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:32 am

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... xport.html

Note that some videos can't be exported from WMM2 in DV AVI without causing A/V synch problems. If your video has this problem, then I suggest downwithpants's method of getting the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... x">Windows Media Encoder 9</a> package and using it to make a high-bitrate WMV profile and exporting under that. I don't have a link at the moment to the page that explains how to do that, but a search of the forum should turn one up (look for downwithpants's posts specifically).

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:37 am

Sorry, should have added a few things:

If you go the high-bitrate WMV route, keep in mind that that's not the file you want to distribute (it should be comparable in size to a DVD-quality MPEG-2 if you set up the profile right); you still have to compress that to a distributable format with either TMPGEnc or VirtualDubMod (and DivX/XviD).

Most people seem to be able to serve their WMV files with AVISynth's <b>DirectShowSource()</b> command; however, this has never worked on my computer, even after specifying all parameters. That's why, if this method doesn't work for you either, I recommend:
http://www.eo-video.com
You can use that to convert your WMV to HuffYUV and your WMA to uncompressed PCM, suitable for compression.

cmdshft · Post by **cmdshft** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:41 am

Ok. Well, another thing. The Video combined with the audio (the video is about 20 secs, the audio is about 3 mins) makes the file size about 51 megs just by saving the vid to a folder. I take it it is possible to compress that video as well right?

bum · Post by **bum** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:25 am

your best option is to compress the video to the highest possible quality dv footage (im not sure if wmm2 can export to avi, if it can, export to huffyuv) and then recompress to xvid in vdubmod. Read the xvid guide here (oh and, look around the rest of the guide) .

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:25 pm

Scintilla wrote:If your video has this problem, then I suggest downwithpants's method of getting the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... x">Windows Media Encoder 9</a> package and using it to make a high-bitrate WMV profile and exporting under that. I don't have a link at the moment to the page that explains how to do that, but a search of the forum should turn one up (look for downwithpants's posts specifically).

instructions:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... ofile.mspx

dv-avi is probably the best quality wmm can export, so unless it messes up your video on exporting (watch the produced dv-avi video for timing problems and ugly transitions), you can recompress it with xvid as bum suggested.

cmdshft · Post by **cmdshft** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:39 pm

Thanks. Ill let you guys know if it worked or not when I get the chance. Arigato gozaimasu! *bows*

cmdshft · Post by **cmdshft** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:03 am

Ok. I got the vid made in WMM2, and I expoted it like the guide said. One prob. I didnt get AVIsynth with the AMVapp. Is it an older version? Also, I was able to open that saved movie with ArcSoft's ShowBiz. I inserted my audio (made sure it was in .wav) and saved the whole thing in MPEG-2. It came out pretty good. Still a little pixlated(?spell?) , but overall, I like it.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:12 pm

Lord Neko wrote:Ok. I got the vid made in WMM2, and I expoted it like the guide said. One prob. I didnt get AVIsynth with the AMVapp. Is it an older version?

Make sure you're getting the newest version:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... mvapp.html

You can also get AVISynth separately if you want:
http://www.avisynth.org

Lord Neko wrote:Still a little pixlated(?spell?) , but overall, I like it.

"Pixelated".

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:46 pm

Lord Neko wrote:Ok. I got the vid made in WMM2, and I expoted it like the guide said. One prob. I didnt get AVIsynth with the AMVapp. Is it an older version? Also, I was able to open that saved movie with ArcSoft's ShowBiz. I inserted my audio (made sure it was in .wav) and saved the whole thing in MPEG-2. It came out pretty good. Still a little pixlated(?spell?) , but overall, I like it.

Ah, the old Showbiz conversion method. ;p

If you're planning to upload this video so people can download, you won't want to use mpeg-2, you'll want to use mpeg1. But if you're just using Showbiz to convert, you should convert it to huffyuv, then compress it in something like VirtualDub (for xvid) or TMPGEnc (for mpg) - that way you can use filters to keep it from being fuzzy, and your file size will usually be a lot smaller.

/main problem is that some people can't play mpeg-2 vids without downloading extra programs - mpg1 and xvid are the preferred formats