27 second intro...too long?

MomochiZabuza · Post by **MomochiZabuza** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:23 pm

i would also like to remind EVERYONE that this discussion was about the length of the intro and not the size ok thats all i have to say

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:28 pm

MomochiZabuza wrote:i would also like to remind EVERYONE that this discussion was about the length of the intro and not the size ok thats all i have to say

I've seen the video, it's not bad. The intro is ok too, but really, you could have cut it to about 4 seconds (the stuff at the very end) to show the studio name, and gotten pretty much the same overall effect.

The idea of an intro, or outro is to 'brand' your name into the minds of people watching, but in a positive way. That's why commercial logos, always use short repetitive sequences.

MomochiZabuza · Post by **MomochiZabuza** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:36 pm

madbunny wrote:
MomochiZabuza wrote:i would also like to remind EVERYONE that this discussion was about the length of the intro and not the size ok thats all i have to say
I've seen the video, it's not bad. The intro is ok too, but really, you could have cut it to about 4 seconds (the stuff at the very end) to show the studio name, and gotten pretty much the same overall effect.

The idea of an intro, or outro is to 'brand' your name into the minds of people watching, but in a positive way. That's why commercial logos, always use short repetitive sequences.

yeah i get what your saying but ummm what video are you talking about? if your talking about the kenshin-duality one it doesnt have an intro or an outro so ummm im a little confuzed

Voices_Of_Ryan · Post by **Voices_Of_Ryan** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:39 pm

Beowulf wrote:I have two thoughts on this matter.

1. Fuck dial-up. This is 2004 not 1994.

Espically since I pay 9 bucks a month for dsl (after the router, and Dsl box was paid off ofcourse) and Dial up is 20 a month.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:09 pm

Beowulf wrote:2. The argument that a bumper takes up too much space in the encode is only made by people who have absolutely no idea about comprerssion.

Point your gun of self-righteousness in the other direction, Beo. If the people encoding those bumpers that are longer than the videos knew how to properly encode - then there wouldn't be a problem and you'd be right. It's not my ignorance that results in other people making 1minute bumpers that take up 30+ mbs - it's the ONE WHO ENCODED IT.

Since when does a person get called an idiot for complaining about the idiocy of others? That's a little dumb, no offense. You don't have to be a noob to compression to notice other people can't compress for crap - it's actually the opposite.

/To be fair, if you can encode that huge bumper to take up little to no space, then it's just something to skip, and not a major problem. My complaint was about those who have huge bumpers and who can't compress them.

MomochiZabuza · Post by **MomochiZabuza** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:22 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
Beowulf wrote:2. The argument that a bumper takes up too much space in the encode is only made by people who have absolutely no idea about comprerssion.
Point your gun of self-righteousness in the other direction, Beo. If the people encoding those bumpers that are longer than the videos knew how to properly encode - then there wouldn't be a problem and you'd be right. It's not my ignorance that results in other people making 1minute bumpers that take up 30+ mbs - it's the ONE WHO ENCODED IT.

Since when does a person get called an idiot for complaining about the idiocy of others? That's a little dumb, no offense. You don't have to be a noob to compression to notice other people can't compress for crap - it's actually the opposite.

/To be fair, if you can encode that huge bumper to take up little to no space, then it's just something to skip, and not a major problem. My complaint was about those who have huge bumpers and who can't compress them.

im sorry i do not know what your talking about

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:27 pm

MomochiZabuza wrote:im sorry i do not know what your talking about

That's okay, I was replying to Beowulf, not you. ^.~

But if you're curious, I'll explain. Beowulf says that if you can't encode, that means I'm stupid. I didn't agree with him, so I said as much.

As to your thread - read the last paragraph I wrote, it was a general reply to the topic of this thread.

Pyle · Post by **Pyle** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:27 pm

MomochiZabuza wrote:ouch

this is the part where im glad to have cable

right here we will have a moment of silence for people with dial-up

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Thank you.

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:02 am

Arigatomyna wrote:
Beowulf wrote:2. The argument that a bumper takes up too much space in the encode is only made by people who have absolutely no idea about comprerssion.
Point your gun of self-righteousness in the other direction, Beo. If the people encoding those bumpers that are longer than the videos knew how to properly encode - then there wouldn't be a problem and you'd be right. It's not my ignorance that results in other people making 1minute bumpers that take up 30+ mbs - it's the ONE WHO ENCODED IT

Ahh right you are. It never occured to me that someone could be a big enough moron to not hit the "2pass 1st pass" button but since thats what you were complaining about in the first place, it should have.

My bad.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:08 am

Beowulf wrote:It never occured to me that someone could be a big enough moron to not hit the "2pass 1st pass" button...

Actually, I see it a lot with wmvs - and you know how big those are (with crappy quality despite the size). The last one I got was literally 60mbs for a 1:30 vid, with all that extra space (about a minute extra) going to the 'exit' sequence. o.O

Makes me shy away from anything over 5 seconds. ^_^;