People always say that subtitles should be cut out, but...

godix · Post by **godix** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:44 pm

For subtitles to work you have to make it damned obvious that you intentionally meant for them to be there. Others have given examples of videos that used subtitles well and in each case it's obvious from the start that they are supposed to be there instead of just accidently left in.

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:46 pm

so i guess overall

don't use subs unless those specific subs that appear, are subs that you intentionally want in the video, otherwise, take them out or just don't add them

least, that's what i'm getting out of all of this... and logic of course [no harshness implied or directed to anyone btw in case that sounded sassy]

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:56 pm

godix wrote:For subtitles to work you have to make it damned obvious that you intentionally meant for them to be there. Others have given examples of videos that used subtitles well and in each case it's obvious from the start that they are supposed to be there instead of just accidently left in.

Personally, I still like Thorax Entertainment's <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... =582">Your Hinascope</a> despite the obvious digisubs being left in. Somehow I don't feel they detract from the video at all.

godix · Post by **godix** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:05 am

Scintilla wrote:Personally, I still like Thorax Entertainment's <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... =582">Your Hinascope</a> despite the obvious digisubs being left in. Somehow I don't feel they detract from the video at all.

I also like that video too despite the obvious digisubs. However the subtitles don't add anything to the video and it's obvious they weren't meant to. Compare that to a video like Lollipops, Sunshine, and rrrRRRrrr where it's blatently obvious the subtitles were intentionally put there and the video is great enhanced by the subtitles. So having subtitles won't kill a good video (although it will kill an average video) they won't help unless it's plainly clear they were meant to be there instead of just left in.

dokidoki · Post by **dokidoki** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:19 am

Scintilla wrote:Doki pulled a similar stunt with <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 24001">his Fanime/Otakon video</a> last year, but the difference is that he just made those up.

You mean that's not what Iniquity is saying?

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:29 am

dokidoki wrote:
Scintilla wrote:Doki pulled a similar stunt with <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 24001">his Fanime/Otakon video</a> last year, but the difference is that he just made those up.
You mean that's not what Iniquity is saying?

With them, who can tell?

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:31 am

Kalium wrote:
dokidoki wrote:
Scintilla wrote:Doki pulled a similar stunt with <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 24001">his Fanime/Otakon video</a> last year, but the difference is that he just made those up.
You mean that's not what Iniquity is saying?
With them, who can tell?

Hmmm... smells like Nirvana.

Lounge Fly · Post by **Lounge Fly** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:22 am

There are 2 ways I can think you can go about this other than slowing down the speed of your clips.

You can go check out the subtitle removing guides in the guides section, although they can be quite extensive

Or if you have the ability, crop out the subtitles. That's what I did in my <a href=http://animemusicvideos.org/members/mem ... 44>Chobits Video</a>. I used fansubbed material so the quality isn't great and cropping will only make the image bigger, so it'll degrade the video quality a little, but it looks a lot better than leaving subtitles in that you don't want

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:22 am

Pretty fly for a Rabbi .

Pie Row Maniac · Post by **Pie Row Maniac** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:51 am

My friends got a girlfriend and he hates that bitch