Instrumental Anime Project

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:21 pm

Heh, yea, I do recall that quote.

Other than that - yea, I looked over the vid and you certainly weren't too harsh. I was definitely starting lapse into the 'cool action is good because it syncs well to the beat' mode towards the ending (which reminded me of what was going on in the middle of 'Wasteland' at times).

In that case... my current idea is take the bit from about 3:27 and add a segment about Yu's past, which should work for taking out some excess action and adding a profiling dimension.

In that case, the titles could be something like...

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(before the beginning) Far away, at the crossroads of the world / lies a mountain / which holds the world's greatest secrets / Ararat

(the first travelling segment) To reach it / a harsh road is to be travelled

(first fighting segment) To conquer it / there is much blood to be shed

(second travelling segment) To find it / continents must be crossed

(second fighting segment) To get there / there are many dangers to face

(the preparation/battle segment) To defend it / great enemies must be defeated...

(the ark-opening segment) To uncover the mystery / there is a door to be opened

(the not-yet-there segment that will tentatively feature something about Yu's past) To enter it / a man must face his greatest fears

(the final fight) To prevent destruction / there is an enemy to defeat

(the end) But when the struggle ends / the secret hides itself once more / far away, at the crossroads of the universe

***

If I can make those appear in an effective fashion, I think it will make a much more interesting video. I mean, in the end, it's not fun when all you have to show for the work is another basic Spriggan video...

Tell me if you think that's a good or bad idea - harsh or not, it's all good when it results in a better vid

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:34 pm

Gah, I just realized one of my things was repeated ~_~

Alteration to previous post:

(the final fight) To prevent destruction / there is an evil to destroy

(yep. Just as pretentious, but at least not repetitive

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pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:31 pm

I love it! It sounds awesome, it could add a whole new dimension to the piece. The titles would give more of an epic feel to the video and they are written very well. They fit the mood of the series perfectly and would help convey that mood in the video. This might be just what it needed, I'm really starting to feel it now. Adding those titles plus a new scene to put a break in the action and add another layer plus various other tweaks (watching again, still bothered by the moderninity of 1:45-2:00) and this could be a truly spectacular video. Not that we expected anything less

. One thing, on the last line I would split it up differently and take out the first line so it read "the secret hides itself once more / far away/ at the crossroads of the universe. which would work well with the three parts of the ending: the golden ark being consumed, the mountains, and the globe.

one last quick suggestion: I know your not to keen on song editing but you might try boosting the treble in a couple of places esp. :45-1:15 to make the melody easier to hear.

Tell me when you upload your next WIP as I'd love to see how it turns out.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:44 pm

Yea, I'll be looking at this within the next couple of days, I hope.

Is there a decent EQ in the audio editing options in Premiere, or am I gonna have to use something along the lines of Audacity to pull that off?

As for modernity and those sorts of transitions - well, I kind of like those scenes where they are - but an overlay or something of the sort to keep it more subdued might help. Will consider that too...

/first time I wished my and my brother's birthday parties lasted less than they do so I could have time to mess with footage again

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:41 pm

Ok, yeah - anyone know who the Inu Yasha vid came from? It'd be nice to have a name to go with it like the other segments being posted.

Also - I still haven't found a solution to the sync problem in my editor's encoding process. I noticed it a little in my shorter videos, but it seems to grow worse with longer projects. Aside from really ruining much of the timing in my Third Stone video, it presents a big problem with my original proposition that I do the compilation work for pulling all of the different videos and the transition segments between them together.

I can still do all the format-conversions that may be necessary in dealing with different codecs, as that uses different tools - but I tried a test run of just importing an hour's worth of source footage and spitting it back out and have found that the timing error grows to more than a second toward the end, which really shouldn't happen with the interleaved streams used by an .avi file.

Anyone with a fancy commercial editor feel like taking over on that part of the project?

On a brighter note, I just set up a deviantART account under the same alias. All I've posted so far is a few fan-art drawings - but hey, why not spit as much of my free-time productivity out into the web as possible, especially where I'm no longer lurking in the TekTips forums helping people with their databases (suddenly develops concern over own preoccupation with online communities).

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:48 pm

Oh - I forgot this one with my last post:

Any ideas on what timeframe we should be putting on this thing? I'd like to set some sort of target date, but would like to know if anyone:

- Wants to make another video beyond what they've already started.
- Wants to make a video, but hasn't posted anything yet.
- Is a busy student who'd like to have a bit of time after school breaks to finish up their project.
- Really just wants to get this done.
- Has anything else to say on the matter.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:57 pm

I'll definitely want to make another vid, and since I have about a week free between today and exams, I should realistically be able to finish the current one, and try to get somewhere with something next. Logically speaking, considering I've already done a weird, scary instrumental video and a more action-packed instrumental video, I might be aiming for something more funny, though who knows...

Hopefully exams won't kill my schedule too much either - they're all within about a 5-day period, and I don't worry much about studying.

Timeline wise - well, that depends on what exactly we're aiming for and how other people are looking at it. I don't think we need to be in a rush, as long as there's reasonable progress being made by more than one member.

If you're having problems with keyframes, etc. - especially for putting the videos together, I think one of the other members could pitch in and help with that (I could do it, but I need to learn the XviD/DivX trick before I do any serious compression, etc.). I'd just remind the members to try and keep to 24 FPS format (since it seems that's what most of the videos are in already) to avoid problems in getting the project together.

In general, I could easily make instrumental videos for... a long time, so as long as the project is going, I'm probably going to be contributing.

Chiisai_Ryuujin · Post by **Chiisai_Ryuujin** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:26 pm

How good should one be for this project?

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:05 pm

As good as you can be

No, seriously, I don't think there's a requirement like that here; but you're expected to put in a good, honest job.

Look at it this way: of the editors on this project, seems that DWP is pretty much the only one who's been at this for over a year; I've only just managed to make something that didn't hurt people's eyes, and Pen-Pen only put out a single vid so far (afaik...).

So if you have an idea, I more than encourage you to contact rose4emily and come along!

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:55 pm

I think we're all technically on a submission for approval basis. *Cracks whip* But I agree with Otohiko, if you have an idea run with it. At the very least you can get a lot of help and feedback by posting betas on the FTP.

Sweet, new ararat. 17K/sec? grrrrr. Man am I spoiled by broadband.

Otohiko wrote: (afaik...).

*has no idea what that means...*

Rose4Emily, the new 3rd stone is a huge improvement. It's much easier to watch the whole thing through now. The titles are great! Where does the text come from? Noticed some repeated footage where you could have just used a still instead of looping (Natoa watching the girl with her feet in the water.) I actually love the song, chaos and all. There is one part that's really quiet and seems stretched though. The video is more watchable now, it's on a whole different level than the first build and with more editing it could jump another. The biggest problem in my mind is still long sections that look like they were taken straight from the anime, it makes it look lazy. Anyway, I'm going to take care of a few things then give you a full rundown of what I think later tonight.

As far as timeline (which by the way was a great movie) goes I have no Idea how long my video will take because my first vid I was learning programs and such a lot. I think I'll lay it all out like Otohiko did and fine tune it from there as opposed to my usual one clip at a time method. If miracles happen and I finish before you people come beating down my door I might be interested in doing another. God knows the .ORG can always use another artistic (hopefully) instrumental vid. It all depends on how things go.

Damn, just realized the post office is closed so I can't get a money order for phade. (Yes, I'm finally donating. It's not my fault I'm lazy.

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