Lip synching

shinto · Post by **shinto** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:23 pm

well on moobies.net (melfinas site) in the top 5 number 2 is a great vid for lip synch it is evangelion (mainly asuka) to Rammstein - Engel its funny aswell!

Aneino_Kaijin · Post by **Aneino_Kaijin** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 5:28 pm

I've found that unless you're trying to do a comedy video or lip sync very very very well, you should not do much of it. A little, sure, but there's nothing worse than a real serious drama video where the song's sung by a man and out of nowhere a woman starts lip syncing, or the lip sync target is obviously not saying what he said or... I guess what I'm saying is be careful.

My personal favorite lip sync was done to Megadeth's "Sweating bullets" with Vision of Escaflowne.

Paul Kievits · Post by **Paul Kievits** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:17 pm

Hey, I just thought of this one: Amazing anime by Jescaflowne. A lot of good lip syncs and still a good video!

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:39 pm

Aneino_Kaijin wrote:My personal favorite lip sync was done to Megadeth's "Sweating bullets" with Vision of Escaflowne.

Did you laugh at that vid too?

hehehehee....

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:05 am

So of course, now I'm leeching all of Panda's AMV's. *applauds* Very good stuff.

ShonenDizzyCow · Post by **ShonenDizzyCow** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:10 am

There isn't any REALLY good AND impressive lip synch videos out yet. But maybe, things will change come a few months time.

Lip synch can be easy or hard, depending on how good you want it to look, much like a video really.

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:12 am

ShonenDizzyCow wrote:There isn't any REALLY good AND impressive lip synch videos out yet. But maybe, things will change come a few months time.

Lip synch can be easy or hard, depending on how good you want it to look, much like a video really.

SOMEBODY SEND THIS MAN A COPY OF KEVIN'S 'ENGEL' STAT!

ShonenDizzyCow · Post by **ShonenDizzyCow** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:35 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:SOMEBODY SEND THIS MAN A COPY OF KEVIN'S 'ENGEL' STAT!

Actually, I do have a copy of Engel. ^_^ It's an excellent video and fitting lip synch, but what makes a REALLY good, impressive lip synch video is one that does ALL of the below.

1. Fits the narrative purpose/situation of the video.
2. Voice of the character fits the creator's intent.
3. Involves a moving non-static background.
4. Involves a moving non-static character. (position and angle)
5. Have proper mouth movements timings.
6. Have proper mouth SHAPES based on the word that is being sung/said.
(saying 'O' means the mouth must be roundish in shape, not rectangular)
7. Have proper facial expression/emotion based on the meaning of the words.
8. Have proper body language to what's being mouthed (if seen).
9. Have other characters react properly to what being mouthed. (if seen).
10.Other relistic details, like inhaling before exclaiming, etc.

^_^

anneke · Post by **anneke** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:29 am

ShonenDizzyCow wrote: 1. Fits the narrative purpose/situation of the video.
2. Voice of the character fits the creator's intent.
3. Involves a moving non-static background.
4. Involves a moving non-static character. (position and angle)
5. Have proper mouth movements timings.
6. Have proper mouth SHAPES based on the word that is being sung/said.
(saying 'O' means the mouth must be roundish in shape, not rectangular)
7. Have proper facial expression/emotion based on the meaning of the words.
8. Have proper body language to what's being mouthed (if seen).
9. Have other characters react properly to what being mouthed. (if seen).
10.Other relistic details, like inhaling before exclaiming, etc.

^_^

Good list...however even in anime they don't tend to do more then just have an open and closed position to the mouths. My most recent video CSS has some interesting Lip Synching that fits into several of the points you make.

1. This is only matters in a non-comedy setting.
2. This tends to happen.
3. I've seen this done. Scott Melzer knows how to do this well.
4. This is really tricky to do, but it can be done. You really just have to get lucky that the character is talking in the same sentence structure as what you want to use. (I have some of this in my CSS video).
5. People try for this, and do pretty well. But even in Anime with the professionals the dubbing sometimes doesn't match.
6. I wish characters had the mouth shape thing, but most of the time they don't.
7. This is usually done. (Unless it's comedy)
8. This can be done.
9. This can be done as well.
10. Usually there is no inhailing in the music we use. Or there isn't time to place it in the video.

Alot of things can be done, but using them in combination can be very tricky. We are after all taking something in Japanese and trying to make it fit English words. Their sentence structure is different to start out with.

Anneke

DJ_Izumi · Post by **DJ_Izumi** » Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:34 am

Panda -

Putting this image, along with screaming loud high pitched at the end of your 'demo' video is like... SO not funny.

I mean really, isn't there enough of that online?
I was like this:
"Hey... this is pretty good, subtitles need to go, but this will be a good vid..."
*video abrubtly stops and screams*
"asgaghahahahaahA RESPECT FOR PEERS: FALLING!"

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