"usefulness", they say...! Ha! >_<
- BishounenStalker
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I take it this Mandark guy has a habit of doing drive-bys? Hope I never run into him.
-- Rachel the Demon, Resident Quoter of Obscure Nostalgia
"Great. He can pick his teeth when he's done with us!" - Marina, Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas
Current AMV: Somewhere On This Night
"Great. He can pick his teeth when he's done with us!" - Marina, Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas
Current AMV: Somewhere On This Night
- FirestormXIII
- Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2001 6:22 pm
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Mandark was created by another member (who shall remain nameless). Mandark had actually topped out the 'useful' list for a while, but all his reviews were basically long flames of other people's videos. Mandark doesn't even exist anymore to my knowledge, as Phade dealt with the problem months ago.BishounenStalker wrote:I take it this Mandark guy has a habit of doing drive-bys? Hope I never run into him.
/Shrug
Everyone is not the same as you.
Get over it.
And lighten up.
Get over it.
And lighten up.
- Xanthrax
- Joined: Sun May 06, 2001 2:40 pm
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Post subjects are a waste of time
I'm not sure why this was aimed at my comments, as I know fine well how important reviews/criticism can be, and wouldn't claim otherwise. I can only presume that you either actually intended this for someone else, or misinterpreted my post.sure thing... ...was important...
My own fault for the ambiguity/misinterpretation here. I was indicating that by modifying what's there, the current system is essentially removed in favour of the new one. Poor wording on my part, but whatever. No point in labouring here.And wouldn't... ...but to MODIFY it...
You detail a tiny minority. No matter what the system is, if someone actively wants to bend the rules, they will. How about some examples here? I'll keep it anonymous.Hum right point...
But, still,... ..."get a good mark", or so....
Someone was way out in front with something like 7 opinions, and would continue to rise when anyone came close to their rating. It turned out that 2 of the opinions were bogus, just loaded up in random videos with no other comments on and no one to find out. Phade deleted said bogus entries.
Someone (with no ill intentions in mind at all, I'd guess) loved a particular video so much that he responded to it with 'I love it' (or something along those lines) as many times as the box allowed. This led to a 14,000 word opinion that pushed his usefulness rating ridiculously high. It was a somewhat popular video, however, and it was spotted quickly and removed (or reduced?).
The aforementioned Mandark account created by someone, as mentioned before. The account was purged.
Notice the trend? Yes, people abuse the system, but the extreme situations that you pose are already dealt with.
I'm sure that I could list a few situations in which people could abuse your suggested system, beyond my overall concerns. Or would that just be silly?
Ignoring this part as I'd just be beating a dead horse.Well, true. But you're... ...confused in a-m-v.org...
Your initial post seemed somewhat personal in its irritation, as though you had certain individuals in mind. I figured that if I was among this number, there'd be a chance for improvement on my part. If not, no harm done in asking.Who?!... Me?! I had someone in mind?!...9_9? you're just learning it to me...!
I still feel this to be intrinsically flawed, in that it still encourages brown nosing and like-mindedness, brings up other matters (general likes and dislikes of the person involved) and is just generally too subjective. Whereas this is acceptable for opinions (and any great offenders of the aforementioned list are looked down on, if not removed), how would you stop such a simple rating system from being contaminated? Or maybe the new raters of the opinions can leave a few notes and then someone can rate them and then... yeah, I'm sure you get the point by now.Well, possible... ..."heavy" to settle...
The great bonus of the current system is that it is entirely unbending and almost entirely objective. It may be easy to get around it, but few ever do to a gross extent, and it is easy to police.
And it's redundant to debate the 'extra length tends to mean extra utility' now. Several people have advocated it, and if you're still sticking to 'but sometimes it doesn't', then so be it. I can't see either side shifting.
Dead girls don't say no.
- Double O Ninety
- Joined: Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:34 pm
Look, this isn't the free country USA. AnimeMusicVideos.org was started by Phade, this is his system, and we like it the way it is. It isn't your place to come and try to change it to fit your view of what's good. Phade put some thought into this before he made it, and it may not be perfect, but it works, okay? If being useful is that important to you, you are going to have to spend the time on creating wordy reviews.
If you don't like it, too bad.
If you don't like it, too bad.
"Hurry up and go to sleep so i can ravish your body in ways you can't even imagine." -Paizuri
- Anime Jedi
- Joined: Sun May 19, 2002 11:16 am
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- KLin
- Joined: Sun Jun 02, 2002 5:07 pm
- Location: One of two California cities
Okay, I found a very good example of a review that doesn't really help the creator, but is very lengthy. Ludicrously lengthy in fact. So I'm going to embarass the reviewer, even though I highly respect his Trailer making abilities. Wu-Wu seems to want the attention anyways.
Here is what he wrote for a review, I did not edit it in anyway, please read it with an open mind and don't take any of it seriously:
Obviously this isn't a serious review. He was probably trying to entertain all of us who reviewed this great video. Or perhaps he plans on simply using that horrendously long inane tirade as a place holder until he gets around to picking apart the video piece by piece. But I'll be darned if this review is to be more 'useful' than the one I gave it. 

He gave this video a very high score, and indeed it is a great video, but then the review goes into a completely unrelated TANG tirade written by someone else with a lot of time on their hands obviously.{a video I made for my g/f...
It conveys the message that it's not always ok to be alone.
Even though it's a simple amv, I feel as though it's still powerful.
The title of the song says it all.
"Solitude By The Window"}
Indeed
I LOVE THIS VIDEO! ITS THE SHIT!!!
Now, you may have read about 'other' tang hate pages, but they are all inferior in quality and design to mine for several reasons. Also, if you think this is silly, you are a heartless, cold, word I can't say here. You obviously have never first hand seen a small child writhing in pain in a bed of tang, screaming for some natural beverage, but the parents will only feed it tang. In short, you disgust me. I spit on you. *SPIT*
I have never had any tang, thus am free from the tainting that drinking tang can create. (It is rumored that the creator of another tang page, perhaps named David, has sampled tang many times in his life, and is not fully pure)
I have firsthand destroyed many a box of tang.
I have cured a person (one Brian Hill) from severe SEVERE SEVERE tang addiction. He was eating 5 boxes of powder per day. He was one sick little monkey. He sat on the street for the quarters people would throw in utter disgust. He was addicted. He could barely walk when I found him... His wing was broken, err, that was the duck I saved from Brian. He was force feeding it tang, hoping to convert it to his demonic ways. I put the duck out of its misery with a bullet behind it's ear.
Brian now lives his life doing a happy little jig for the money people throw. He now has a wholesome knitting addiction. For more information see the 'Save Obsessive Compulsive Hill webring
I am just so much cooler than David, it's scary.
I hope you will now consider my website the definitive source for anti-tang propaganda. I will now list the sections to my website.
I. So you're addicted to tang, eh?
II. So you've got a pile of tang on your front lawn, eh?
III. Top ten signs a friend is addicted to tang
IV. Tang: what is it good for. Absolutely nothing.
V. What to do if you or a small child finds a broken box of tang on the ground
After this, there are several special bonus sections for paying customers ONLY!
I. So you're addicted to tang, eh?
Here is how to tell if you are addicted to tang. Do you lie in bed awake at night? Craving a sweet, orangey drink? If so, you are not addicted to tang. These are normal impulses everyone experiences at one time or another in their life, except for me, as I am perfect. Got that? Good. Now I can continue. The key is to deny your feelings and ball them up in a pit in your stomach, letting them out on a water tower some day. Some people would consider this wrong. They themselves are wrong.
If you give in to these impulses, I hate you. I wish you were dead. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE. Having said that, I will now tell you how to rid your body of it's demonic possession. First, purchase some cool music, such as The Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day or White/Rob Zombie. If your parents will not allow you such music, kill them in their sleep. For a less violent resolution, simply move onto the street, bringing the necessary batteries for your Boom Box.
Now that are on the street, you may be developing an odd smell. This is from lack of washing. Resist the urge to bathe in tang. It will only make things worse. Also, you may see other people inhaling tang through their nostrils. This is also wrong. Do NOT snort or smoke tang. Even though they may tell you all the cool people do it, this is not true. They use illegal narcotics.
By now you should be in full blown tang withdrawal. Symptoms include dry mouth, clammy hands, and the urge to move as far away from John Oliver Secondary School as soon as possible. Now, all the but the last symptom should disappear in time. You are now half way there. The symptoms are gone, but your body has not been cleansed of the tang deposits in your lungs, from inhaling the tiny tiny particles every time you make tang.
This is tang cancer. If not treated, the tang will mutate and grow into a huge abomination the likes of which you have never seen before. However, there is hope. Simply take a length of PVC pipe approximately 10" in length. Take the pipe and beat a tang addicted person up. This will cause the tang in your lungs to migrate to the addicted person, who will provide a much richer breeding ground for the rouge tang cells.
II So you have a pile of tang on your lawn eh?
Here is how you rid yourself of the menace known as tang. It is very long and involved procedure, taking countless hours of work and devotion. Should you fail in your mission, evil shall consume you. Here is what you shall need
A Flame thrower (If a flame thrower is not available, use a dog. If a dog is not available use a puppy. You know what I mean.)
A small dragon.
4 pairs of gloves. Latex. Extra Durable.
A length of PVC pipe.
A Gun
A small doll resembling Hill (This is used to distract the tang)
To start, flame the tang. If you do not have a flame thrower, use the dog. Apply the dog liberally to the tang. If you do not have a dog, use a puppy. You know what I mean. Apply the puppy to the tang. If the puppy resists, club it with the PVC pipe. If the dog resists, show it the small doll resembling Hill. Now, the tang should have broken down into it's two core components: orange and sugar. Bottle the sugar for later use. Now, take the small doll resembling Hill and show it to the tang. If will turn itself into lichens at the lovely sight of Hill.
Then take out the small Dragon. Now, you do not know what I mean. Stop that. You are sick. Oh damn it. I mean THAT dragon, not THAT dragon, not that I know anything about that. In any case, have the dragon eat the lichens. It will now die, but you have been ridded of the evil presence of the tang.*
* If the tang is not yet gone, all hope is lost. Apply the gun liberally to your skull.
III. Top ten signs a friend is addicted to tang
These are the sings that a friend or loved one or even a pet is addicted to tang. If someone you know matches even one of these criteria, please, for the love of god, seek help for them. Also, do not allow them to be near any sharp paper. Dull paper cut in circles is okay, but not any sharp paper. Understood? Good. Here is the list:
In spite of how they hate carrots, there is a orangish band around their lips.
They refuse to eat any pizza, unless it is accompanied by a surly steak.
They get mad at you if you suggest it may be a sirloin steak they are after
The mere mention of hot chocolate makes them froth at the mouth.
One word: tang-under-the-mattress
One word: teng-under-the-kitchen-table. Yes teng.
Many long distance phone calls to Mexico, where pre hydrated tang is bottled.
A sudden increase in vomiting
A disturbing gain in popularity
They love to hide in pipes all day. Such as sewer pipes. Especially SEWER pipes.
IV. Tang: what is it good for. Absolutely nothing.
Tang is good for nothing. Tang is the source of all evil. Evil is tang. Tang is evil. Now, here is why tang is evil. This is the history of tang.
One cold December morn in Austin, Texas, Ardenios Hoppinnini created the vile beverage know as tang. He took pure Florida oranges and tainted them beyond recognition. Then he added sugar Sweet sweet sugar It was the sweetest sugar ever found, except the sugar found in the sweet sweet sugar mines of North Dakota. This is now the preferred sugar to use when making tang. Back to the story.
Ardenios took the heathen beverage and served it to his demonic god sandbox. Sandbox smiled upon Ardenios and gifted him with the power to transmute gold to tang. Ardenios quickly became tired of the tang, but it was too late. Ardenios had been consumed by the evil power of the dark lord sandbox. 'Hey hey sandbox ain't that bad,' he was heard to quip over a breakfast of tang and cheese. He filled his gaping maw with huge mounds of un mixed tang. So much tang flowed from his jaws that it was thought he was pure tang incarnate. Of course this pleased sandbox to no end.
This continued for several eons until a hero by the name of Odin (Related to the Norse god). Odin took his mighty hammer and battled Sandbox. Sandbox fought valiantly, but in the end was vanquished, as attempting to take a last sip of the heathen beverage. By this time, Ardenios' powers had gone from being mild and zesty, somewhat similar to Clamatto, to wild and disgusting, somewhat like tang itself. Ardenios gorged himself in a trough of tang. He drank and drank, until his gaping maw was full. After he had drunk his fill, he decided to have a child. He created the child by combining and snow and tang. This vile creation, half snow, half tang all evil was to be the bane of all that was organized. This unthinking brute would wander the countryside, smacking people all day long.
Odin heard of the heathen beast and saddled up his mighty horse Omegaron and rode him into the country. Once in the country, Odin heard story after terrifying story about the heathen beast. He hunted the beast all day long and finally came to a hut. It seemed the only sanctified building in the area. Everything else was covered in a disgusting orange powder, surely left by the foul being known as the Spawn of Ardenios.
Each night Odin came closer to the beast, and the lair of the most disgusting vile, and powerful being ever: Ardenios. Ardenios sat in a chair, his maw gaping open as cherubs shove spoon after spoon of tang into it. Every now and again, Ardenios was heard to remark 'Korn for the Khorne dog' in an obscure language known only as Tangspeak. Soon one of the cherubs tired. Ardenios took his gleaming, white talon and disemboweled it. He then gorged himself on the carcass, leaving nothing but gleaming white bones glistening in the light let into his chamber by a hole cut in the quiet blue marble of the ceiling.
Odin was coming closer. He could smell the disgusting putrid odor of tang emanating from a cave above the city. He faced many dangers along the trip, including The attack cherubs sent by Ardenios. He made quick work of them, slitting their necks with one quick motion. Odin came to the mouth of the cave. The sweet stench of tang was too much for him. He collapsed in a heap. This might have been the death of Odin, if it had not been for his sidekick Robin, boy wonder. Robin took out his mighty anti-tang pills and fed them to Odin. Odin awoke and felt the power of the anti-tang serum rushing through his blood. With a mighty cry, he charged into the cave, dodging falling rocks, snakes, wolves, bears and old ladies.
The old ladies were the deadliest he had ever seen. Each with ten gleaming hooks where fingers should have been. They slashed and thrashed at Odin as he charged past. They were infected with Ardeions' sweet sweet tang disease. He had promised them ten kilos of pure tang for their services. Even with this motivation, as we know all old ladies love tang as much as Matlock, they could not stop Odin and the boy wonder.
Finally, Odin and the boy wonder reached Ardenios' chamber. It surrounded by a moat of tang. They crossed the river of tang using ropes, and several old ladies. The old ladies gorged themselves on the sweet sweet rushing river of pure demonic tang. After crossing the moat, Odin smiled as he met Ardenios. He was truly vile and disgusting. Over six thousand tonnes of pure malevolent evil tang. A burst of tang shot at Odin. He dodged. He then lunged at Ardenios and plunged his hammer into it's head. Ardenios gave a mighty cry and collapsed in a heap. What happened next was without a doubt,t he most spectacular thing ever. All the tang had changed to Coca-Cola, the coolest beverage ever, save Dr. pepper.
This was the tale of Ardenios and Odin, two mighty beings, squaring off for one final battle. In the end, good prevailed, however, at what cost.
V. What to do if you or a small child finds a broken box of tang on the ground
Do NOT touch the tang. Touching the box would place you in a position where the tang could infect you. If you find a child with powdered tang on its hands, please, for the love of god, shoot it twice, squarely through the head. IF this child weighs over 56 kilos, shoot it eight times. Why? Why not. To dispose of the tang, please refer to section II, and substitute C4 for the puppy, or rather (for optimal performance) a puppy coated in C4.
VI. Special bonus section. How to tell if your son or daughter is the reincarnation of Ardenios.
Here is your child. They are between eight and ten. They have a disgusting love for tang. You find their bed sheets with odd orange stains. Your child may be Ardenios. Some people would say this is wrong. They themselves are wrong, and are probably minions of Ardenios. Do not confuse Ardenios with Satan. Satan has some good qualities. Ardenios has none. He is four billion tonnes of malevolent pure tang. He lives on a pirate ship and all he eats are apples. Say that while stretching your cheeks out. Not those cheeks, the ones on your face. Timmy, you actually have to use those cheeks, since that surgery went south.
If you suspect your child is Ardenios, do not touch it. Neglect it. Leave it on the porch. It deserves to be there. Ardenios is evil. Now, some would compare this to the throw the suspected witch off the cliff thing0r. But it is not. If you suspect your child is Ardenios, take a 10 meter by 10 meter by 10 meter vat and place the child on the bottom. Fill the tank with tang (powdered of course. We wouldn't want this sucker floating, would we?) and see if the tang disappears over a period of ten minutes. If it does not, your child was not Ardenios, but you probably didn't love it anyways. C'mon, you it in your heart to be true. I mean, after looking at the perfection that is the author of this site, how could your demonic little thing be anything but evil.
Well, I suppose this is a little harsh. I am now turning off my monitor. I'm back. Now I can continue, or, as the French say, la continue. The French say a lot. I remember reading a dilbert about the French bombing Elbonia. It was funny. Someone needs bad puns. I suggested he go to the pun shop where they sell puns for $45 a tonne. I will now continue with the tang story. Fact. Tang fact page. Tang hate Fact page.
VII. Help the cause!
So you want to join your local anti-tang group. Do you hate tang more than life itself? If so, we want YOU! Get your butt over to the anti-tang convention, held all year long in Vancouver. I can clean a spot in the basement for you. Bring Raid. Just kidding. I'd advise corpse, err, dish washing gloves. Also, several puppies will help. Sane people need not apply, I'm plenty sane for us all! Muwhahahhhah- erm.
I also accept donations. If you wish to donate, send the money to John Oliver Secondary School in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Send it for Robin Tavender. It will get to a good place. My wallet, erm, anti tang fund. I will personally burn a box of tang for every $20 donation I get. I also a puppy. You know what I mean. No, not that, you sick sick monkey. You know what I mean. You are misunderstanding again, you fouled heathen. Ah well, it will all come out in the wash.
VIII. Hill revisited.
It's been two years. He now lives in a group home for recovering tang fiends. He knits. His friends knit. They are like old ladies, except there is no cable on which to view Matlock. They are sad. But they are tang free. It's the way to be. Tang Free. See Hill run. He runs much better now. When he was eating tang, he couldn't at all, save chasing the tang truck. Sometimes he would chase it for hours, hoping it would stop. Eventually, he figures out it is not a tang truck, but a DOD truck, transporting chemical weapons which look, taste and act like tang.
Hill is a bit affected by prolonged exposure to John Oliver, as he lives in such close proximity. However, Ilia, who lives nowhere near Jayo, exhibits the same signs. Ah well, the exception proves the rule, right?![]()
IX. Interactive Area. wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean know what I mean. No, you are being disgusting again. Ah well.
Well, it's been a slice folks, but now i gotta go! G'bye!


- Chaos @ Kishina-Project
- Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2002 4:20 am
Sierra Lorna wrote:In general,
The more words someone writes in an opinion, the more the video creator learns about what the opinionator thought about their video. Therefore, more words = the better your ability to improve next time = more usefullness!
However,
I once had a guy write me 1000-word flame that basically said "you suck and your video sucks". He even put in the AnimeMusicVideos.org flame form, which I can say right now was obviously not intended to help me improve next time. I wouldn't have considered the opinion helpful at all, but it was very long and must have taken a long time to write out. I actually think he shouldn't have wasted his time, since it got deleted in the end anyway...![]()
But usually if someone writes a long opinion, it's because they're trying to be helpful.
People have different styles of writing opinions, and that's all up to them. It's good to have the "useful commentators" scores because it encourages people to write longer reviews. As a video creator, I greatly appreciate long reviews because 1)it makes me feel special that someone took the time to write a long, thoughtful opinion, and 2)I learn more from them. That's why I also try to write long reviews for other people.
What's wrong with writing long opinions?
Points to Review I wrote for Sierra

whenever i write a review, I write everything down I think is appropriat. So all my reviews are about 900 words (atleast), I never manage to write less
