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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by MisterFurious » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:19 pm

Otohiko wrote:When given that it's at AX, a gigantic anime con with the resources it OUGHT (though perhaps not to say does) have, this was really unprofessional and poorly run.
Whatever resources AX has, we didn't see any. We were given no money to set this up, only a mandate that whatever we did bring to the con had to conform to the mixing board they had already allocated for the room, which was basically a single video feed and a single audio feed, plus whatever microphones we needed. That was what we had to work with. With more time, we're hoping to secure some sponsorships, like we have seen at other Iron Chef contests, to provide us with the equipment we need to put on a proper show.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:26 pm

MisterFurious wrote:It's my hope that next year we'll have better machines capable of running CS5, but we'll leave CS4 and 6.5 in there, too, just in case.
Personally, if I was running it, I wouldn't give the editors an option. To make sure everything runs smoothly, pick one and make sure it works from beginning to end. Also, you wont be able to run 6.5 if you're using CS5 due to the 64bit issue (unless you dual boot XP... not bad idea now that I think of it). CS5 is all 64bit and 6.5 wont install or run (unstable) on a 64bit machine. I'd ditch cs4. Install pro 1 or cs3 (kinda iffy still, should get more feedback on that) but don't give the editors an option to use it. If CS5 doesn't work for what ever reason, then try the other one as a backup (and only as a backup). I think above everything, the tech has to work flawlessly so the less reasons for it to screw up, the better :P

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by MisterFurious » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:36 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:It was a joke :P
You're right. This guy :P isn't funny enough. How about this guy? :D
Radical_Yue wrote:All I was saying was that I don't personally like the way you guys did it. That's all. If that is how you want to run it, by all means...do so :P
Just sharing the thought process, is all...
Radical_Yue wrote:Sorry, but Nic was the only one running this event that actually sat down, listened to criticism and didn't say "We'll think about it." We sat there and talked, he was friendly, open, and said "Those are excellent ideas! Let's do that!" Even when we attempted to talk to the two of you after AMV 101, you seemed a bit too busy on your iphone to even look me in the eyes :/ Hence why I'm a bit more excited about working with Nic. Not saying that you're a horrible person because you apparently had a lot going on at the time or something, but if you were put in that situation where one person was like "Holy crap! We can make this kick ass! Let's do it!" and the other person was staring at his shoes the entire time, what would you think?
I told him straight up what I thought about the events and the two of you and yet he still seemed really excited to work with us (Me, Kisanzi, etc...) on making these events spectacular.
Now that I see your description of the situation, I must apologize if you felt I was aloof after the contest. I was, in fact working frantically to get the videos to the Nokia Theater in time for them to screen during Masquerade half-time, to better promote the contest. I hope that once you've had a chance to work with me, you'll find me just as approachable as Nic. If not, no worries. We'll still work through this together.
Radical_Yue wrote:Now it's time to change it from an event to a real IRON CHEF TOURNAMENT :D
I couldn't agree more. Can I get a HELL YEAH?
Radical_Yue wrote:I just want to fix it next year.
So do I, believe me.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by MisterFurious » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:37 pm

Pwolf wrote:Also, you wont be able to run 6.5 if you're using CS5 due to the 64bit issue (unless you dual boot XP... not bad idea now that I think of it). CS5 is all 64bit and 6.5 wont install or run (unstable) on a 64bit machine. I'd ditch cs4. Install pro 1 or cs3 (kinda iffy still, should get more feedback on that) but don't give the editors an option to use it. If CS5 doesn't work for what ever reason, then try the other one as a backup (and only as a backup). I think above everything, the tech has to work flawlessly so the less reasons for it to screw up, the better :P
Solid information that I was not aware of. Thanks!

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:46 pm

xstylus wrote:It was actually 20% actually, though Brad and I were expecting a rate of 40% churn. That's normal for this event at other conventions. And more interestingly, people started leaving roughly about the time when people were starting to line up for Masquerade. I think we managed to keep people's interest and attention pretty well throughout the event. If you and your cohorts weren't interested in the commentary, no prob. Niotex might enjoy some company.
I'd have to disagree with you there Troy. At every Iron Editor I've been to (a lot), once the room fills up (rather early), no one leaves (at least not in large groups). There's never any empty chair. But, considering the Masquerade, I can see why people would leave, it's the most popular event at AX. Also, to back you up a little bit, it's a new event at AX and the first one on the west coast, if i'm not mistaken, so I'm sure a lot of the con goers aren't familiar with it. Also, AX turned into a big cosplay con so the majority of the people there are more interested in cosplay then AMVs IMO. I think to expect a full room might be a little much for the first year.

Also wanted to add that you're not being very open to suggestion it seems. Brad is on the right track but you seem to be pushing those who want to help away. Granted, we are only seeing part of the story here. If more audience members (non editors) commented on their thoughts then I bet we'd have a better idea of where we are at but i don't think we will ever get that luxury. Unfortunately you're stuck with amv editors who are really passionate about this and want to put on a good show. Coming from someone who's boycotted AX for the past few years due to the lack of AMV content (more like not allowing more AMV content), I would love to see an IC at AX and more AMV programming. But if it's not up to par with the official ones done in on the the other side of the country, I don't think going to AX would be worth my time and money. I don't want to go to an event where I'm bored the whole time and looking at videos with crappy video and audio issues. If the amv editors are bored with technically questions then you KNOW the audience has to be bored also. We want more people to like AMVs and we want more people to want to see more AMV programming but we also want to make sure the program is top notch and the best it could possibly be, both entertaining and technically.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:04 pm

One thing Ashyukun always does for the AWA Iron editors is have audience participation with some AMV games. Like having the crowd watch a massive multi anime amv and giving a prize to the person who can answer the most anime. Believe me, it's a lot of fun for the crowd. I'm sure Kit and Yue have quite a ton of videos for it. I would highly recommend more fun audience interaction videos to get the audience moving.

I also do agree that people want to come and watch videos more than ask tech questions (which should be for AMV 101).

Hopefully if we do get sponsorship next year, we need to have actual prizes for the winners.
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by XStylus » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:34 pm

Pwolf wrote:Also wanted to add that you're not being very open to suggestion it seems. Brad is on the right track but you seem to be pushing those who want to help away.
Honest truth be told, I think I've allowed my personal dislikes with certain people to color my responses which have made it sound that way, and for that I apologize. I am indeed open to suggestions when they are brought forth in a tactful manner (which, I will also admit, my own responses were borderline on).

I basically handled the logistics, booking, and equipment side of things. Is there room for improvement in the future? Hell yeah. Was there room for improvement given the time we had? Absolutely not, in my very firm opinion, and I've been taking personally any assertions to the contrary. But now that we have more time, yes, I will cheerfully take any realistic equipment suggestions and functionality suggestions and implement them as best as possible. As for how the event itself is conducted, I leave that to Brad. He's far better at that stuff than I.

This event was kind of a "proof of concept" where I wanted to demonstrate to staff how cool such an event could be at AX. I've got many staffers now on board to advocate for the event, especially Michael Underwood who has enormous pull as Director of Entertainment and all but promised at Masq that he'll do whatever he can to make sure IC happens again next year. I don't think he'll run into any difficulty with that at all, given how well received the event was (present company excluded).

I've got a large number of contacts and paths I can explore for equipment sponsorships. I will be exploring those to the best of my ability. I'll also be able to see if AX can include specific equipment in their tech blueprint for whatever room we land in so that IC can run more smoothly. If need be, I'll buy some equipment out of my own pocket. And as I said earlier, I'll be spying on other conventions and seeing what works, as well as where we can possibly add our own unique spin in some way.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by MisterFurious » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:46 pm

Castor Troy wrote:One thing Ashyukun always does for the AWA Iron editors is have audience participation with some AMV games. Like having the crowd watch a massive multi anime amv and giving a prize to the person who can answer the most anime.
Never seen that before. AWA once tried a whole panel based on that game called "The Splice is Right", but it didn't occur to me to use it during IC.

In addition to prizes for the audience, I also want to get chef outfits for the Iron Chefs, monogrammed with their org user names. That way, if a challenger wins and accepts the invitation to return as an Iron Chef the following year, they, too will have have earned their own custom outfit. Granted, the prize is symbolic, but not quite unlike the director's chairs AX used to give out for the AMV contest.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by Pwolf » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:04 pm

MisterFurious wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:One thing Ashyukun always does for the AWA Iron editors is have audience participation with some AMV games. Like having the crowd watch a massive multi anime amv and giving a prize to the person who can answer the most anime.
Never seen that before. AWA once tried a whole panel based on that game called "The Splice is Right", but it didn't occur to me to use it during IC.

In addition to prizes for the audience, I also want to get chef outfits for the Iron Chefs, monogrammed with their org user names. That way, if a challenger wins and accepts the invitation to return as an Iron Chef the following year, they, too will have have earned their own custom outfit. Granted, the prize is symbolic, but not quite unlike the director's chairs AX used to give out for the AMV contest.
LOL that's actually and funny idea... if anything, it embarrasses the contestants and gives the audience something to laugh about :P

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Iron Chef AMV Contest

Post by Radical_Yue » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:53 pm

MisterFurious wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:One thing Ashyukun always does for the AWA Iron editors is have audience participation with some AMV games. Like having the crowd watch a massive multi anime amv and giving a prize to the person who can answer the most anime.
Never seen that before. AWA once tried a whole panel based on that game called "The Splice is Right", but it didn't occur to me to use it during IC.

In addition to prizes for the audience, I also want to get chef outfits for the Iron Chefs, monogrammed with their org user names. That way, if a challenger wins and accepts the invitation to return as an Iron Chef the following year, they, too will have have earned their own custom outfit. Granted, the prize is symbolic, but not quite unlike the director's chairs AX used to give out for the AMV contest.
It's a bit of the standard nowadays. Everything from Con shirts, dvds, plushies, signed memorabilia, etc... can be won.


And x2 to what King Pwolf said. I lol'd.

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