Jwalk0 wrote:Zero Link wrote:I tend to disagree. Some of you guys are only say that because he's mainstream, and not Eminem of course. I know a lot of you that I talk to will clown mainstream rappers without taking the time to actually listen to their stuff simply because they are currently on the radio, and we all know "mainstream rap is garbage!!". Lil Wayne has made a lot of pretty good songs if you listen to his albums. It's just when he's on the radio, he chooses to release the dirt shit tracks with autotune because that's what the audience of today want. =\
I still like and highly respect the people I know who are fans of his including you and vice versa since musical taste isn't everything that defines a person but looking at Wayne's fanbase without insulting anyone, most of them do not know the roots or the best of the hiphop/rap genre when rappers of Wayne's calibur are being regarded as the best. Especially those who were born in the late 90s to the 00s. I'm going back to the 80s, to the Biggie and Tupac days when I say most rappers from those eras knew exactly what they were talking about lyrically, beat wise, and concept wise with intelligence and defined the genre, these days there are a handful of hungry artists with the same mindset but sadly they are hardly getting the recognition they deserve. I'm scared of what will become of the genre even 5 years from now

Well for one I'm no off the wall fan of Lil Wayne myself, I was just stating some of his songs isn't as bad as people make it out to be, especially those that aren't into mainstream rap. (I'm not into it either but I do give some of it a chance) A few things that you've pointed out that caught my eye though:
most of them do not know the roots or the best of the hiphop/rap genre when rappers of Wayne's calibur are being regarded as the best.
Are you sure you're familiar with the roots of the rap genre? A lot of people say today's rap genre isn't the same as it was back then, but on the contrary, its no different. Today's Stanky Leg or Crank Dat can be analogous to ANY of the 69 boy's songs, ESPECIALLY Lemme Ride That Donkey (rofl). They were meant to get you off your feet and dancing. The sexually explicit songs and the songs about murder haven't just up jumped and appeared from no where. This has been here every since rap started, and I highly doubt we will be the voice to remove it. NWA, Suge Knight, Biggie, Snoop Dogg, need I say more? I've had friends who couldn't see the difference between yesterday's rap and today's rap... mainly because a lot of them have the same message, just brought by a different style/beat. The only reason why we (including I) refuse to listen to the new stuff is because we grew out of it. While I'll contradict myself by going to some of my old hip hop songs I use to love that talks about the same thing thats being talked about today, I will never buy an album from Trap Star, Drake, Soulja Boy, or whomever.
I'm going back to the 80s, to the Biggie and Tupac days when I say most rappers from those eras knew exactly what they were talking about lyrically, beat wise, and concept wise with intelligence and defined the genre, these days there are a handful of hungry artists with the same mindset but sadly they are hardly getting the recognition they deserve.
No offense, but have you EVER listened to a Biggie song? As far as rapping about gangsta shit, killing, extremely sexual content, Biggie should NOT be in that list. Take a listen to Dead Wrong for example. I can understand Tupac, KRS-One, Queen Latifah, 2 Live Crew (maybe that one is just me), H-Town (definitely just me lol), Jurassic 5, and others, but ionno about Biggie lol. He's great and all, but idk if thats a good example XD.
And as far as the future genre, I agree with you on that. Overall I'm just saying the messages aren't too different from each other. One can disagree, but it's been said. Hell, even Don Cornelius didn't like the fact that rap was first rising up and approaching Soul Train, and that's saying A HELLOFALOT! Because he loved all music.