Dont you find it sad that old AMV's just kind of "die"?

[dreamawake]

Dont you find it sad that old AMV's just kind of "die"?

Some AMV's transcend the form, but after a while, even the best AMV's just get old and won't be watched

I find this really sad.. At least with radio, you have DJ's who may hopefully choose to play a song, but AMV's just dont have
this kind of channel, especially because the whole thing exists in some nebulous grey legal ground.

When I think of an AMV like by Koop I can't help but feel what a tragedy that eventually this video just wont get watched,
and new eyes wont gaze upon it. Sometime last year, I brought a DVD-conversion of my favorite AMV's to a party, so we all drank alcohol
and chatted away with AMV's playing away in the background. I was very pleased

Does anyone else feel sad that AMV's evenutally die?

I think this post is complete and utter bullshit. I still watch old videos all the time, and I know for a fact a bunch of other editors do as well. Even people who only watch amvs and don't edit watch older videos, even more so than editors sometimes.

[Vlad G Pohnert]

As the person who runs more AMV rooms and blocks at cons then anyone else. I, just like a radio DJ pick a wide diverse amount of AMVs to play in various blocks... although a lot of new stuff is played, during times may older videos also get played. Hell, even played Duane Johnston’s, "500 miles" video to Ranma at Sakura and the crowed loved it! And that's 0ver 10 years old... It all depends on the video and what we are doing. For the countdown we did, a lot of older videos got shown and the audience loved seeing them.

Vlad

[Knowname]

When the top 10% list's starting page was the all-time as opposed to the past 12 months, great videos didn't die. Now that it is buried, combined with the fact that people are to lazy to look further than whatever the top page is, videos will stop getting watched after they fade off the past 12 months list.

This is true and now it all seems like the battle for the most outrageous resolution (we all have to out-do yootoob riet??) that it just smacks old 320x240 and even 640x480 (soon to be 848x480) videos into the 'WHAT were you thinking when you made this so small??' corner. It really is a shame... meh but such is progress.

[Scintilla]

It's fairly hard to find "good" simple cut AMV. They are still out there, but there's more and more editors who mask their inability to choose good scene and make a good cut with effects, which supports this wave :<

I once got a Quick Comment that said "Are you capable of doing something that isn't full of cheap effects?" -- and this was 3.5 years ago, BEFORE my last two videos (which were much worse offenders in that area, partially due to being two-week rush jobs). Hopefully whoever left this will check out my summer video this year (which has almost zero effects).

Does anyone else feel sad that AMV's evenutally die?

Not really...all good AMV's had their time.

Unless they, for whatever reason, never got the popularity they deserved in the first place.

Examples: one (only 3.69 star avg.?!) - two - three

[Nya-chan Production]

Does anyone else feel sad that AMV's evenutally die?

Not really...all good AMV's had their time.

Unless they, for whatever reason, never got the popularity they deserved in the first place.

Examples: one (only 3.69 star avg.?!) - two - three[/quote]

jarnik should be much more known for his AMVs, I support that (and a fellow Czech AMV maker~)

[Pas]

Does anyone else feel sad that AMV's evenutally die?

Not really...all good AMV's had their time.

Unless they, for whatever reason, never got the popularity they deserved in the first place.

As good as a video may be, I don't believe in the idea of "deserving" to get more attention or what have you. The whole notion that something is only as good as its popularity is a strange one indeed, and of course, how good a video is really can be subjective depending on the person. I believe that if it is a truly great video it will be recognized in time by the masses, just as any great piece of art work would eventually end up in the hands of the wider public.

[mirkosp]

"IT'S ALIVE!!!! IT'S ALIIIIVE!"



...Ok, that might have looked like lame, but anyway ... Think about it, great stuff never dies. I mean, you don't forget the really epic stuff, and even if it was done before you were even born, you will eventually get to know it.
So I think that the truly great amvs, or the ones that the mass considers as such, will keep being known forever. I mean, even newer users that joined the amv community be it here or on the tube or elsewhere, will eventually get to know vids like Engel or Euphoria. So yeah, my point actually is, old isn't the right word. My opinion is that the vids that die aren't the old ones, but the not great ones. New vids die pretty easily if they are lame, but the good oldies are still talked about.

[Ijexis]

People still go on about the Mona Lisa and how old is that?

[Scintilla]

As good as a video may be, I don't believe in the idea of "deserving" to get more attention or what have you. The whole notion that something is only as good as its popularity is a strange one indeed, and of course, how good a video is really can be subjective depending on the person. I believe that if it is a truly great video it will be recognized in time by the masses, just as any great piece of art work would eventually end up in the hands of the wider public.

I guess we fundamentally disagree on this point, then; after seeing videos like those, I don't trust word of mouth alone anymore. I believe that if a video isn't publicized by its creator, then it's totally possible that it won't spread as far as other videos that aren't as good have (it's up to random chance who sees it without a rec from someone else, and in any case you won't have as many people checking it out initially as you would have had with at least, say, an announcement thread or an appearance at a convention; so, with fewer people seeing it, there's less of a chance that one of those people will start it spreading)...

... and this is why you always see me exhorting people to send their videos to conventions if they want to get popular, so that then you can count on at least those (often substantial) captive audiences.

See also "When I'm With You": it took this song SIX YEARS before DJs suddenly started appreciating it, which led to its rerelease and reaching #1 on the US charts.

[Pas]

As good as a video may be, I don't believe in the idea of "deserving" to get more attention or what have you. The whole notion that something is only as good as its popularity is a strange one indeed, and of course, how good a video is really can be subjective depending on the person. I believe that if it is a truly great video it will be recognized in time by the masses, just as any great piece of art work would eventually end up in the hands of the wider public.

I guess we fundamentally disagree on this point, then; after seeing videos like those, I don't trust word of mouth alone anymore. I believe that if a video isn't publicized by its creator, then it's totally possible that it won't spread as far as other videos that aren't as good have (it's up to random chance who sees it without a rec from someone else, and in any case you won't have as many people checking it out initially as you would have had with at least, say, an announcement thread or an appearance at a convention; so, with fewer people seeing it, there's less of a chance that one of those people will start it spreading)...

... and this is why you always see me exhorting people to send their videos to conventions if they want to get popular, so that then you can count on at least those (often substantial) captive audiences.

See also "When I'm With You": it took this song SIX YEARS before DJs suddenly started appreciating it, which led to its rerelease and reaching #1 on the US charts.

My argument is more along the lines of, if what you are selling is shit, no matter how hard you try to sell it, it's still shit. Something good however, requires little persuasion to sell.