Original Animation: How far is too far?

[Pas]

I haven't seen too many videos from the org with original animation, but the ones that I have watched have all been highly memorable for me. This site's definition of anime is animated works that were created from and for Japan. This raises the question (for me at least) how much original animation can be done before the video is no longer seen as an AMV?

Animated works originating from Korea (such as the opening from the MMORPG Yogurting) are not considered anime, and therefore not available for upload on the org. However, things such as fan art or drawings of characters from an anime show are acceptable as anime on the org. I'm not complaining so much as trying to distinguish what exactly we can do and how far we can push the boundaries before it no longer holds any relevance to AMVs.

I understand that fan art and the likes can be considered acceptable because they are essentially another portrayal of something that was originally created in Japan, but what about some of the other ones? I remember watching a video (hosted on the org) that was very much like a flash animation of a person (who more closely resembled a stick man rather than an anime character) and his story. It was well made and original, but I couldn't help but think, if this was acceptable for upload, what makes it so different from other sources such as Yogurting?

I know this is shaky ground and that most cases are dealt with on a case to case basis, but I really would like to understand the logic behind this.

[Shinnie04]

Hmmmm

This site's definition of anime is animated works that were created from and for Japan.

Animated works originating from Korea (such as the opening from the MMORPG Yogurting) are not considered anime, and therefore not available for upload on the org.

How come Aachi & Ssipak is listed on the animes list on this site when thats a Korean produced animation? I think what has happened is that since Anime has that iconic drawing style, people can sought of accept Korean animations as anime because they share the same or really similar styles and maybe by the fact that these are neighboring countries.

I understand that fan art and the likes can be considered acceptable because they are essentially another portrayal of something that was originally created in Japan, but what about some of the other ones? I remember watching a video (hosted on the org) that was very much like a flash animation of a person (who more closely resembled a stick man rather than an anime character) and his story.

I haven't seen that AMV but did the animation hold any cultural references or any sort of references to an anime or anime itself as a whole? Like for example characteristics and such seen commonly in anime. If so I think even though the drawing style isn't similar to actual animes, it still does hold that connection with anime in a cultural and referential way.

Those are just my thoughts lol

[Shinnie04]

Hmmmm

This site's definition of anime is animated works that were created from and for Japan.

Animated works originating from Korea (such as the opening from the MMORPG Yogurting) are not considered anime, and therefore not available for upload on the org.

How come Aachi & Ssipak is listed on the animes list on this site when thats a Korean produced animation? I think what has happened is that since Anime has that iconic drawing style, people can sought of accept Korean animations as anime because they share the same or really similar styles and maybe by the fact that these are neighboring countries which shares some similarities (we even share some words).

I understand that fan art and the likes can be considered acceptable because they are essentially another portrayal of something that was originally created in Japan, but what about some of the other ones? I remember watching a video (hosted on the org) that was very much like a flash animation of a person (who more closely resembled a stick man rather than an anime character) and his story.

I haven't seen that AMV but did the animation hold any cultural references or any sort of references to an anime or anime itself as a whole? Like for example characteristics and such seen commonly in anime. If so I think even though the drawing style isn't similar to actual animes, it still does hold that connection with anime in a cultural and referential way.

Those are just my thoughts lol

[Shinnie04]

//facepalms

This is why I should never post on the org while rendering a project on my crappy comp =_=

[Douggie]

That's an interesting question which I always wondered about. Ever since I saw Greed vs. Ency, which was fully own animation, I thought how you could get away with that. I mean, the characters in that AMV could be not from an anime - whcih wouldn't matter at all for the effect of the video - and then it wouldn't be in the .org's catalogue.

So as a test I always wanted to do an AMV with cosplayers - which is live action, but there are anime characters in it - just like Greed vs. Envy.

Would that count?

[Kionon]

If I drew animation for my students and then included it in a video, would that count?

After all, I am in Japan, and it was created for a Japanese audience...

[Otohiko]

I think the main logic for permitting it has less to do with strict definition of anime and more with the site trying to encourage creativity. Things like this give AMVing in general more credence as an independent and highly original art form, at least potentially, and are a good way of promoting the merits of AMVs as slightly more than just remix-art.

[BasharOfTheAges]

I think the main logic for permitting it has less to do with strict definition of anime and more with the site trying to encourage creativity. Things like this give AMVing in general more credence as an independent and highly original art form, at least potentially, and are a good way of promoting the merits of AMVs as slightly more than just remix-art.

This. It's pretty contradictory and not a fair application of rules and standards, but the people that decide have decided that they didn't want to tell someone that's put that much work into making their own animation "no."

[CodeZTM]

I wish the site had the rule... "If it looks like anime, smells like anime, and has characters with weird and gravity-defying hair, then it's anime."

[Kevmaster]

I think there is no "too far".