Elfen Lied DVD Quality Trouble and Question

[Zarxrax]

The banding appears to be being caused by limitedsharpenfaster. Try msharpen and see if that works any better.

[Kero777]

The banding appears to be being caused by limitedsharpenfaster. Try msharpen and see if that works any better.

Thanks for your suggestion. Well, I tried it and it helped slightly. It does look a little bit better around the face, but now I am noticing it more around her hair when I didn't really notice it before. New clip:

MSharpen Clip

New Script for the clip:

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Deen("w3d",3,3,5)
removegrain(mode=5)
removegrain(mode=5)
fluxsmoothST()
undot()
gradfun2db()
vmToon(strength=24)
msharpen()

Looks like it's going overboard with all the noise removal ones, but it seems to help with the problem slightly. o_O

[gerber2022]

Deen("w3d",3,3,5) i think is mostly for 3d anime like apple seed ff7 i think you should change it to
deen("c2d",2)
RemoveDirt()
RemoveGrain()
Tdeint(mode=2)
vmtoon(strength=50)
ColorYUV(gain_u=4)
Tweak(cont=1.0,sat=1.2,bright=0, hue=0)
bicubicresize(848,480) this works best for 16:9

and for the second part at the end of converting to xvid bicubicresize(640,360)
vmtoon()
ConvertToYV12()
hope this helps out and looks better

[Kariudo]

Deen("w3d",3,3,5) i think is mostly for 3d anime like apple seed ff7 i think you should change it to
deen("c2d",2)
RemoveDirt()
RemoveGrain()
Tdeint(mode=2)
vmtoon(strength=50)
ColorYUV(gain_u=4)
Tweak(cont=1.0,sat=1.2,bright=0, hue=0)
bicubicresize(848,480) this works best for 16:9

and for the second part at the end of converting to xvid bicubicresize(640,360)
vmtoon()
ConvertToYV12()
hope this helps out and looks better

w3d is temporal and spatial smoothing (w2d is just spatial). the 3d doesn't mean it's for 3d/CGI anime

c2d is probably worse (I say probably because I've never used it)

the coloryuv and tweak lines aren't needed (the saturation and color of EL is fine as is)

bicubic resize may be preference, I prefer lanczos4resize. 848x480 is for square pixels (1:1 PAR)
you might use that depending on your project...but if you are using NTSC (0.9 PAR) then you'll want to use 960x480 instead

[Kero777]

bicubic resize may be preference, I prefer lanczos4resize. 848x480 is for square pixels (1:1 PAR)
you might use that depending on your project...but if you are using NTSC (0.9 PAR) then you'll want to use 960x480 instead

Thanks for both of your replies.

Yes, I am using lanczosresize() instead of bicubicresize(). By experimenting, I found out that bicubicresize() left a lot of artifacts in the footage: especially blocking. It isn't as sharp either, but of course the sharpness comes at the expense of compressibility so it is preference.

I've never used lanczos4resize(), Kariudo. Is there any noticeable difference between lanzcos4resize and lanczosresize()?

I think I will stick to 848x480. I love that aspect ratio for some reason, lol.

Well, I've been experimenting off and on. No luck. I am just about to give up on it and settle with what I have. Or maybe I'm just more terrible with scripts than I thought?

[Zarxrax]

Is there any noticeable difference between lanzcos4resize and lanczosresize()?

Lanczos4resize is just a little sharper, at the cost of compressibility of course.

[Kariudo]

I should also mention that w3d only does temporal, not spatial smoothing
:headsmack:

onto the results:
test clip was my most recent beta on my most recent project (6615 frames, 720 x 480)
I have an amd athlon64 x2 3800+ overclocked to 2.5GHz (memory running at 417MHz)
I was running some other programs, but the cpu and ram usage were uniform across all the tests
here's my script

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setmemorymax(128)
AVISource("C:\Documents and Settings\Sanjuro\Desktop\can't accept beta 
3.avi")
converttoyv12()
lanczosresize(1600,1200)

the resizer was changed to lanczos4resize and then bicubic resize

there was a somewhat noticeable difference between bicubic and lanczosresize/lanczos4resize, but no noticeable difference between lanczosresize and lanczos4resize

lanczosresize encoded the fastest at 3:28 followed by bicubic at 3:58 and lanczos4resize trailing at 4:17

bicubicresize turned out the smallest file at 906MB
lanczosresize followed at 955MB
lanczos4resize trailed at 977MB

[Zarxrax]

I should also mention that w3d only does temporal, not spatial smoothing

Uh, no. It does both. Thats where the whole "3d" thing comes in.

[gerber2022]

to me bicubicresize(848,480) has worked well for me for 16:9 footage and at the end you could go with bicubicresize(640,360) for a smaller size file

for 4:3 LanczosResize(640,480) with Crop(8,0,-8,-0) is great this way the video will be a square video again and this is the correct size of the ppl or anime charcters and this way they don't look all thin and long