The Great Debate: Effects and Presets

Warheart · Post by **Warheart** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:42 pm

I actually just agree with Corran.

Also Oblivion > *

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:36 pm

MSN Convo wrote: Niotex says:Its funny though seems the little talk Andre, Chris, Todd and myself did get shit kicking. So now whats basicly happening is people are starting to talk about FX/Presets and overall standards from a different perspective as they'd normally do which would be just keep it to themselves.

We figured [Or rather "I", considering I can't speak for the others.] the moment the Spoil review would be posted on the boards people would start screaming murder. Thus why we pushed it a little.

Autraya says:
i guess you weren't obvious enough on spoil . as in it was just waaaaay too long a review
going round incircles [Going round in "Inner Circles" =w=.] alot

Niotex says: It did.. I blame the people on "defense" for being very "slow".. *cough* Paperisland *cough* Don't take me wrong though. Even if I'm a ass on the review not ones did I say it was a bad video. Which is what people are assuming as soon as I started pointing out "negative" things.

Though the highlighting of the "negative" had a funny side effect. Being, before the review people were all "ZOMG Spoil CaN i hAZz Ur BebES?!?~!". After the review people started giving it negative feedback as well.. as if they had seen the "light". But regardless of their altered opinions, they don't want to feel like the bad guy. Thus they point at the guys that did the review. And for some reason people seem to really have it out for me the most. Which is fine considering I don't mind getting chewed out a little for the sake of pushing standards and making people more aware. Someone has to be the bad guy might as well be me you know.

Reason I'm saying that is because I'm confident enough to back up my own words with actions. Something most people in our community cant or will not do. I'm lazy so it doesn't show on a regular basis, but when I do output something I try to push things =P Its my creed.

Niotex says: Also your free to quote me at any given time. That and I need to drink less coffee..

Alex: finish it ye bastid .... wait you're not the slow one >.<

Yok/0 · Post by **Yok/0** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:13 pm

Someone has to be the bad guy might as well be me you know.

That and I need to drink less coffee..

Say Good Night To The Bad Guy!

Koopiskeva · Post by **Koopiskeva** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:16 pm

I think we're forgetting the big picture here.

Mitch uses presets.

Think about it.

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Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:28 pm

00:19/00:23 - F.E.A.R. =w=.

Fokyes

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:06 am

jbone wrote:
Pwolf wrote:people argue over preset effects? o.o

x2

I just group them in with other sourts of effects one either hand makes or uses presets. Frankly I have nothing against any of them as long as they are artisticly employed rather than being used just for wows or kicks.

I don't use them but that's because

1. I think I suck with them
2. I just prefer to edit with just old fashioned transitions

But that's not because I think it's a superior way or editing.

Tono_Fyr · Post by **Tono_Fyr** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:53 am

jbone wrote:
Pwolf wrote:people argue over preset effects? o.o

Indeed, this is NOT the great debate of AMVs, not by a long shot.

guy07 · Post by **guy07** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:26 am

INVERT STROBES FTW!

lol, but seriously, i don't see a problem with presents. When used properly, they can make a video better, though not always. I prefer more complicated effects (they just make better eye candy) though.
Also, i'm' insulted you didn't use one of my videos as a example of presets Autraya

Falconone · Post by **Falconone** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:52 am

Corran wrote:Presets are absolutely fine with me as long as they are used well.

Custom effects can be awesome too, as long as they are used well.

vote for truth

outlawed · Post by **outlawed** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:27 am

The point of view taken by the OP is bizarre to say the least. At no point did they address ROI, cost effectiveness, or time management. When you are working on multiple projects at once and a high priority item comes in for a preferred client you WILL drop what you are doing and use the most efficient method to wrap projects up so you can spend more time and energy on your preferred client's contracted work. It is ludicrous to assume all projects are equal and that using presets is somehow beneath one's professionalism.

The most powerful effects ever used in a music video were in Too Short's Cocktails
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Ve_Mdcn2A

See 1:15. I'm pretty sure that was a canned effect.

It's OK. L2P. Holla~~

-Peace