Collab Vs. MEP

[Arigatomina]

I used to distinguish them by editing style.

A good collaboration can have from 2 to 200 editors, but if it's good it all blends as if one person had made the video. The point is to have each editor contribute seamlessly to create a whole better than any one of them could have done alone.

An MEP has a variety of editing styles, possibly breaks to show when one editor's section ends and the next begins. The point is how that variety combines to make a solid (theme-wise) collection.

An mep that looks like a good collab (where the entire video could have been made by the same person) is a bad MEP.

A collab that looks like a good MEP (where each editor's contribution is unique and vivid) is a bad collab.

That's my def. I like it.

[Fall_Child42]

Collaborations are standard one track AMVs with more than one editor. 2 or more. Doesn't matter if it's a gazillon. As long as it is one track. Usally not more than 3, but no reason why it can't be.

MEPs are where each editor has his or her own track. Usually massive, but again, no need to be. Two editors with one track each inside of one video file = MEP.

This is a stupid definition, especially since you don't define "Track" are the ROS series not one track? do they not count as MEPs? what is the "Standard" a one track AMV must adhere to? if anything deviates from this as of yet un documented and undefined standard does it automatically become an mep? What if the Collab has end credits does that make it have two tracks and thus not a collab at all but an MEP?

This is actually a very VERY easy question to answer I don't know why you guys are pussy footing around this.

the answer to the ops question is nothing.

I repeat, nothing.

NOTHING.
(and we are talking about the product of the collab / mep not the lingual-symbolic representation of the words, so no bringing semiotics into this. Also this lack of distinction is applied only to AMVs and a-m-v.org.)

if there is more than one person that edited a bit of the AMV then it is both a collab and an MEP.

MEPs still use the "list collaborators" option when filling out the video info, there is no distinction.

so to answer the ops question very easily and correctly just once more...nothing.

[Kionon]

FC, I have not seen ROS. I will watch them before I respond fully.

But honestly, despite your asshole tone (and you've been ratcheting that up lately, which I don't understand why), I think it's pretty clear I disagree with you. I think there is a recognizable distinction in the same way one can look at a square and a rectangle and say "doh, those both have four sides and four corners, but they're not the same shape!"

[Fall_Child42]

FC, I have not seen ROS. I will watch them before I respond fully.

But honestly, despite your asshole tone (and you've been ratcheting that up lately, which I don't understand why), I think it's pretty clear I disagree with you. I think there is a recognizable distinction in the same way one can look at a square and a rectangle and say "doh, those both have four sides and four corners, but they're not the same shape!"

You know you really shouldn't use an analogy like that without relating it in any way to what you perceive are the differences between the two. MEPs and Collaborations (for the purposes of amvs only) are simply synonyms like aery and ethereal they mean the same thing and are spelled different, much like godix has already mentioned.

[Kionon]

You know you really shouldn't use an analogy like that without relating it in any way to what you perceive are the differences between the two. MEPs and Collaborations (for the purposes of amvs only) are simply synonyms like aery and ethereal they mean the same thing and are spelled different, much like godix has already mentioned.

It's called nuance.

And indeed, I do believe there is a popular perception of the difference between a collab and an MEP along the lines I have described. They are synonyms in a dictionary context perhaps, but I strongly disagree that they have the same connotation inside of the amv context. In point of fact, I have stated that I believe emphatically that they do not. And, as stated, I will need to watch ROS to render an answer about that specific example. If the ROS series does indeed demonstrate a "standard" "one-track" approach, as you seem to be suggesting, than I would consider that under the connotation of collab, not MEP, as the Org has slowly allowed its definition to evolve.

[inthesto]

I'm gonna go with Todd on this one.

This is like asking the difference between a sphere and an orb. People might associate different examples when you ask about either one, but it's all in perception and there is no real difference.

Let's hope this sparks an equally stupid and useless perception vs reality debate.

[BasharOfTheAges]

Are there closed MEPs or open Collabs? I always find the difference there - in how they're run. One's a public or semi-public effort where people are asked to join, one's just something that happens amongst friends. Counter-examples?

[JaddziaDax]

then you have the ones you actually have to audition for vs the ones you can join at will O:

[godix]

Are there closed MEPs

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 11">Yes</a>

[Greggus1]

Are there closed MEPs

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 11">Yes</a>

That's a collab in my eyes