a-m-v.org Condones Art Theft?

[Scott Green]

Apparently my post was way too long for people to feel like reading.

Then you post another long one??
wicked girl :O

*goes to read your second post*

[JaddziaDax]

either way they should take it as a compliment that someone liked their art enough to want to make something out of it.

quoted for great justice

[wurpess]

Apparently my post was way too long for people to feel like reading.

Then you post another long one??
wicked girl :O

*goes to read your second post*

Apparently this is not a topic I can talk briefly on.

The point is, its the internet. Stuff tends to wander. So even if you get art from sites that's usually ok with you using it, there's always a chance it came from somewhere that doesn't want it used. (Like deviantart) So I'm not saying 'Deal with it', I'm saying 'Chill'.

It think that about sums up <strike>my aimless rambling</strike> that entire post. *^_^*

[JaddziaDax]

okay, I wanna say one more thing.. then maybe I'll gtfo this thread.

But I feel that if this person really wanted her art removed she should contact the admins by the email listed at her deviant art account to get the banner removed... because since you have so clearly stated, you are not the "owner" of said art, therefore you should have no say as to where it should be used.

[Garridy]

Jaddi just hit the nail with the head there.

[Arigatomina]

Wow. You guys just dig yourselves deeper every time. Take a breath, step back, and read this thread from start to finish. Now pretend you're a hobbyist who actually takes pride in the fanwork you create. Read the thread again. Notice anything grotesque? Three pages attacking the victim and defending the offender. There's something wrong here.

It's not okay that our banners are full of fanart used without credit - most of which is taken directly from deviantart. There are plenty of official art pics and screencaps that could have been used instead. This is animemusicvideos.org - use anime and video! It's a no brainer. Our banners should reflect our site - not deviantart or any other fanart website the art was taken from.

Since the art is not taken down, does this mean that AMV condones such actions?

Only the vocal forum members condone it. "Thank us for using your fanart." You know, they say the same thing when people use amvs. "You should be flattered they liked your vid enough to repost it with their name on it." The people on this forum are all for stealing and plagiarism. And if you have the gall to point out how ridiculous, disgusting, and demeaning that mindset is, they'll bash you over the head with sarcasm and pat each other on the back for having no respect whatsoever for hobbyists who actually take pride in their work. It's an amv org forum thing. No other hobby condones fanwork theft like the forumers here do. Why are amv-org editors so different? I don't know, but they've been this way for years and they just get nastier and more condescending every time the subject comes up.

But it's just the forumers. I've never seen an admin tell a fanartist to be grateful and flattered, let alone insult their intelligence for caring about their hobby.

Create a deviantart group dedicated to stolen fanart on the org. Some amv people here did the same thing on youtube. They link all the stolen vids and then report them till they're removed from the tube. You can do that, too. Have the deviantart people link all the stolen fanart being used in org banners and report them to the admin here till they're removed. The admin here will remove them - and much quicker than the tube deletes those stolen amvs, I'd wager.

But I feel that if this person really wanted her art removed she should contact the admins by the email listed at her deviant art account to get the banner removed... because since you have so clearly stated, you are not the "owner" of said art, therefore you should have no say as to where it should be used.

...they said the art was stolen and they had contacted AMV many times to take it down. Neither AMV nor the person who stole the art, Mike of the Desert, has taken it down at all...

If at first you don't succeed, have someone vocal make a thread about it. Works every time~!

[76]

*tear comes to eye*

I agree. I'm on my way to becoming a manga-ka, and when I do,I hope that my fans care enough to bring such things to my attetion so that I can take the proper action as well.

[JaddziaDax]

so then why is it okay to steal from the original creators but not fan artists? are fan artists in some higher ground than the people who make "official art"? or is it because "official art" makes more money than "fan art"?

I'm not saying that they shouldn't have the right to take down the work if they don't want it here (same goes for any anime creators or musician who wants us to remove videos).

What I'm saying is that they should go through proper channels (you have to do that on the almighty tube as well to take down vids there) instead dragging up "drama" and slinging accusations on the forums... if they want to take their art down then they should contact the right people about it.

Sending a friend in to yell and scream at a site isn't exactly going to win either of them brownie points here. (Thats if this person was "sent" here to do so - they could be acting on their own). If this was the person who "owned" this art, asking the admins to take down the banner, I could completely understand. And I've seen the admins take down banners made out of someone's art that didn't want it here, so it's not like it's an impossibility.

Also, I see nothing wrong with taking it as a compliment that someone liked their art to use in some kind of way. IT SHOULD BE A COMPLIMENT, even more so than someone taking your footage and Frankensteining it into their own creation. It means someone liked their art.

AND another thing, I don't think that Mike was trying to "take credit" for the art, so I don't feel that this is the same as people who steal whole videos and try to claim them as theirs.

[76]

wasnt there a band that had their music removed from the org?... ah yes, it was evandssence and 2 others, they simply requested their art be taken down.
I don't remember such a stink as this one.

clean and simple

[godix]

You know, they say the same thing when people use amvs. "You should be flattered they liked your vid enough to repost it with their name on it." The people on this forum are all for stealing and plagiarism.

At least we're consistent.

Actually I suspect the issue was more people going "So this random person is accusing users and the site as condoning theft but they can't be bothered to link to what was stolen, link to proof it was stolen, and they claim the admins have been contacted many times and done nothing which just flies in the face of what we've seen the admins do in issues of theft? Plus this person didn't even make the art that was stolen? Fuck em." Now that they finally got around to proving the art was not original it's just a matter of seeing proof the actual artist wants it pulled down despite what their deviantart page says.

On a semi-related note, I'm in no way involved in Linkin Park but the guys in Linkin Park are real good friends of mine and I know they've sent dozens of emails to the admins about the org stealing their music. The site should delete all linkin park videos. I'm not being sarcastic here, I just figure something good like the total destruction of linkinballz vids should result from all this.