CorpseGoddess wrote:And I was just wondering when that became the case.
When the carrot turned into the donut. Before that you had to pay for hosting (either by donating the $50 for the early carrot admission or having your own site). It was harder to share vids. Beggers aren't choosers. With the influx of noob crap vids also came in influx of next-generation vidders with "talent" and "skills". The old greats had to kick it up a notch to stay ahead. The new ones jumped right after them and we have the rat race of today.
Or maybe it happened when the VCAs became open instead of nominated by mods/Phade/the select few. I wasn't here back then but looking at the past pages will give you a few ideas. Now that anyone with a fanbase can be nominated, there's more competition for the "familiar names" to stay in the lists.
But keep in mind this is all forum and convention based. Some people join the org, share their vids, develop fanbases (quite large in a few cases) and never go near the forum, let alone conventions.
And, yes, the star scale was originally going to be a "I liked/I didn't like" yes or no option. The whole ranking system turned it into a mini op system with forced participation.
/still laughing my ass off over your whamwhamwham statement
Scintilla wrote:You could just ignore your scores...
It's not the scores, it's the comments. Scores only matter to those who do take the hobby seriously and work to improve and compete. Because they get ranked and judged solely by the scores. The comments don't matter to the Top 10 list. It's all about the scores.
As a comparison, Deviantart has options when you post a new art pic. You can pick 'detailed constructive criticism' - for those who want to improve. Or you can choose 'general feedback'. I think there's another option in there as well, but you get the idea. It's not the numbers, because you're not competing, it's the "this is what you should have done if you wanted to do it right" vs the "I didn't like the way you did that/I like the way you did that/I wish you'd done this/I think if you'd done this it would have been even better" comments. One comes off as the words of a teacher in a class where right and wrong is clearly outlined from the start. The other is an opinion in a hobby where good and bad is a matter of personal taste.
JudgeHolden wrote:Which makes you safe, because people don't leave ops unless they are friends, fans, or you ask for them ......
Lies!
There are quite a few people around here who get an ego stroke out of leaving demeaning reviews for editors they dislike, simply because they can. As long as they stay out of the flaming range, there's not a thing anyone can do to stop them. If you've never been stalked by one of these people, consider yourself lucky.
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Now for my take. I don't like competition. I think it makes people nasty. Brings out the elitist/snobbish/petty/underhanded/nasty side of people. Generalization. But I don't like it. I think the org has changed, at least on the forum. There is a resounding theme that you should not share if you don't want to join the race.
Don't like the fire, get out of the kitchen. Okay, but what if there are people who want to eat my bake sale cookies? They're hanging around the kitchen door looking for snacks. I come up to give some out and I get attacked by the restaurant critics writing up their articles. I tell them I don't have a restaurant - I'm just here to hand out some cookies to these hungry people on the off chance they enjoy them as much as I do. It seems a waste to eat them all myself when someone else might want some. But I'm not allowed to go to where the hungry people are unless I'm ready to be judged by the restaurant crowd? Why? I'm not going into the kitchen, I'm just sitting here with the hungry people. You're not making them stand up to the same criticism as the kitchen people. Why attack me? I'm not stealing your customers. They'll still be hungry after having a few of my cookies. Don't be so hostile.
Now to put that into org speak: If you don't submit to conventions and you don't participate in contests and you don't join competitive studios and you stay away from MEPs where you must be judged worthy to participate, then you're not a competitor. You're a casual person making amvs available to anyone who happens to be interested in them. If they like them, cool, they know where to find more of the same. If they don't, cool, they know not to go look in that profile again. If they feel obligated - by some moral duty to reform and correct bad editors - fine, say your peace and go look for someone who meets your standards. Some people don't want to be chefs, but they still enjoy making snacks for the kids next door.
Of course there's the tube now, which is where most of those kids next door are hanging out. The bake sale moms are just slow to realize their target audience has migrated, so they're still hanging around the kitchen. Just ignore them and they'll go away eventually. Or, if you feel obligated to keep the sidewalk clean, put up a no loitering sign. That should to the trick.
...unless they're troublemakers who enjoy getting the chefs in a tizzy with their unkempt ways, lazing about right outside the kitchen door.
"and theres nothing wrong with that..
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