Are amvs fun??

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:41 pm

This is a false dichotomy, IMO. Yes, technical skill is super-ass important to most people. But simultaneously, people can and do mess with it just for fun and leave orphan frames and crap all over the place. Thousands of them do just that. Are you going to get superfamous and popular doing that? Maybe, maybe not.

But tons of people churn out videos that are both technically perfect and stylistically and creatively awesome. Good technical skill doesn't destroy stylistic skill or vice versa, unless you personally dislike one or the other of them. There's no argument here.

*inverse* · Post by ***inverse*** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Are AMVs fun? Well, I like my way of doing videos - as in taking a song I like, and putting it together with an anime I like. That's fun. I love doing that, and I love seeing other people do that. Preparing and encoding can be time consuming, but it's just part of the process. Not tired of it yet ;P

But yeah, about the tech rants... times have changed, I guess. People have been spoiled by very talented editors and shiny encodes, so it seems anything less than perfect isn't that acceptable anymore. I have mixed feelings about it. While I think it's nice to have high-quality videos (visually), it's hardly necessary. I tried the MP4 thing once, and I don't think it made much of a difference (either way, it still wasn't good enough, as I still had someone say they were 'disappointed' with the quality, and another person asked if I could "re-master" it).

Meh... I guess it's just that elitist attitude I see in a few members of the community that's irritating to me. I'm always impressed by some of the technical skills I've seen, but it's no fun having them pushed on you.

Anyway, editing for myself is still fun. It's all about the anime and the music.

And yeah... I love Vegas

Lok1990 · Post by **Lok1990** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:15 pm

Copied from my profile page.

Lok1990 wrote:"The(my) reason of AMVing
An amv is started when i fall in love to the characters or series. When i feel i want to do something to dedicate to the characters or the series, my first choice would be AMV. A good example would be my latest amv, Control, dedicated to Yuki Nagato, my fav anime girl. Then Dark Friendship for Enzan and Blues, Wave of Memory for Rukario. the fact of doing amv for favourite char/series is proven when i gave up the Rockman Ryussei(an anime i don't really like) project at half. I kept yawning when amving it and started to hate the thing. "

In a nutshell, i have fun amving for my fav series/character but i hate to do amv for the anime/character i don't like. So i simply stick to the anime/character i like. even i got an awesome idea for an anime i don't like, i'll suggest it to other people since i know that i wont have fun editing the thing.

yea compressing could be boring >_> but somehow i like the clean up/filter work, when i see my footages are cleaned and look greater than before, i feel happy and proud ^^

guy07 · Post by **guy07** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:26 pm

I miss when all the vids had bad visual/audio quality

Amvs have evolved too much, now if you don't edit at a pro level your left in the dirt,hell, i've seen some amvs that would put pro editing to shame. It's hard to keep up with that sort of level. But yet we all try. I swear, if half the top 10% editors got jobs, it would change the musicvideo/movie industry. All we can do is our best and have fun, like it or not. What we have is what there is, you can bitch and moan or just have some fun, your choice.

*i'm kinda plastered, so sorry is that makes no sense*

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:29 pm

guy07 wrote:I swear, if half the top 10% editors got jobs, it would change the musicvideo/movie industry.

Personally, I'd suggest that half the top 10% editors finish college first.

But the topic of why most of us don't want to edit as anything more than a hobby has come up plenty of times before.

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:30 pm

I wouldn't say they're fun. It's just not the right word. Entertaining? Occupying? Satisfying? Yeah.

The community aspect of it still retains a tiny bit of it's fun, but it's not like it used to be. It's mostly bitching over stupid shit now and taking huge shits on anyone new to the hobby. Although those can both be pretty fun to watch.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:56 pm

devilmaykickass wrote:
Scintilla wrote:As far as I'm concerned, getting my footage to look and compress the best it can is <i>part of</i> the fun.
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I honestly don't see how not trying to do things correctly could be fun... Might just be us though :/

Sub0 · Post by **Sub0** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:01 pm

I will haxx your brainz!!!!

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:14 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:I honestly don't see how not trying to do things correctly could be fun...

The problem is that "correct" changes with time. When I started, doing things "correctly" meant using mpg instead of wmv (or rm, which was even more common than wmv at the time), which I did before I even knew it was "correct" because it was more compatible with various players. Then it meant using xvid instead of mpg, which I did because it was "correct" and I could see the quality and size difference with my own eyes. Then it meant using h2~ avi files instead of xvid, which I didn't do because xvid still worked as fine as it did back when it was still "correct" and I didn't see any benefit to the new format considering the playback issues. Now it means using mp4 instead of the hd avi files, which I don't do because I didn't do the last one and xvid (still) works as fine as it did back when it was "correct." When the next new "correct" format comes along, I won't be doing it, either, because - you guessed it, xvid will still be working as fine as it did back when it was "correct."

After a certain point you stop noticing the improvements and you start wondering if "correct" means "anal" or "next best trend" rather than being the opposite of "incorrect". And that's just distribution formats. That doesn't even consider the current "correct" things to do when it comes to effects/edits/storytelling/etc.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's not laziness or idiocy that keeps me from picking up the "next best thing". I have encoded a video in mp4 (by request) and it came out lovely the first try. The problem is, I couldn't watch it myself (to make sure it came out okay) until I converted it to vob because my computer dislikes mp4. That makes it kinda pointless on my end, however "correct" it might be in today's amv community.

On the other hand, I actually enjoy ripping and precleaning footage. It's my favorite part of the process next to scene choices to make the actual video, because I can see the improvements I'm making on the dvd footage - and that's just cool. ^_^;

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:28 pm

Nitpicky correction:

Arigatomina wrote:Then it meant using h2~ avi files instead of xvid, which I didn't do because xvid still worked as fine as it did back when it was still "correct" and I didn't see any benefit to the new format considering the playback issues.

Putting H.264 in AVI has <i>never</i> been "correct".