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Post by Mag Launcher » Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:16 pm

Scott A Melzer wrote:What's punk?

I dunno. But I don't think it matters. People like what they like, and they don't what they don't. I've been asking "What's Rock?" for a long time. And you know, there are a lot of bands that some people call "Rock" that are really different from others.

I frankly don't care what label you put on something. If you like it, then great. If you put a label of a type of music on a band, doesn't that limit them? Isn't punk about being different and exploring? About doing whatever the hell you want, musically? If I were in a band, I'd hate to have a label like "You're forward progressive preppy rock" or "You're retro nihilistic punk" or whatever. Just do what you want and don't care how people want to classify it.

I think WHY do you like punk is a lot more interesting. This discussion was very interesting when people were talking about messages.

Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really notice many attacks here. It seems that people were just missing what the other person said. I didn't think that Mooooooo (right amount of o's?) was really attacking Mag Launcher at first, just stating his opinion, but it got out of control. And it's cool to have an opinion, of course. But, it just got stupid with the attacks on VegettoEX, who wasn't attacking back, yet people responded like he WAS. Weird.

I don't understand the point of the picture... Yeah, that's what they look like. Damn, if I had a babe like that on MY arm, I wouldn't care what people on an AMV site had to say about me.

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Post by FirestormXIII » Sun Jul 14, 2002 3:10 pm

Wow, I'm glad I didn't get into this topic earlier on. The only point I wanted to add was that if you like what you listen to, then great listen to it. Screw what everyone else thinks, it's about what you like. If we all really started getting into the business aspects of the music we listen to, then we probably wouldn't like much of anyone. And if everyone started listening to unknowns in the music world? Some record company would pick them up, and sooner rather than later.
It's a cycle, and it is a business, whatever some people would like to believe. I also know people like having something to call their own, whether it's a band or whatever, but people also have to realize that bands want to be heard, and they want people to like them. Do they want everyone to like them? Probably not, but they do want people to enjoy their music. If enough people like you, you're going to get popular, it's the nature of things. Does that make you bad? Only if you stop following your vision and start following dollar signs and fame.
So really, if you're going to start a discussion about music, talk about the music, please. I'd rather hear someone talking about how they don't like such and such a band using dimished 7ths so much in their songs than I want to hear about someone being rich. Being rich doesn't have much to do with the music.
And if that sounded condecending, then I'm sorry, but I'm a musician so I have this tendency to want to keep music things about music.
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Post by temjin » Sun Jul 14, 2002 5:45 pm

cheezits

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Post by FirestormXIII » Sun Jul 14, 2002 10:03 pm

Timbits

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Post by Mag Launcher » Mon Jul 15, 2002 12:24 am

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:21 am

Mag Launcher wrote:When I was having flame wars with ex I told someone you would come to defend him. No you did. I must be a weatherman. :shock:
Glad to see you're still contributing to the discussion.
FirestormXIII wrote:So really, if you're going to start a discussion about music, talk about the music, please
w0rd.
Scott A Melzer wrote:I think WHY do you like punk is a lot more interesting. This discussion was very interesting when people were talking about messages.
Indeeeeed.

I guess I can say (and this will probably piss off some older fans) that my first "exposure" was probably Green Day's "Dookie" album, back when I was.. what.. in sixth grade? It was a different sound than what was around at the time (Hell, I had been listening to Boyz II Men in grade school ^^;;). I didn't do too much with it, other than keep it around and listening to it a lot.

It was probably around when I moved to Pennsylvania in 10th grade and fell in with some new friends that I started to really get out there into the music. My first semester there, I had a lot of classes with juniors, and there were two in particular that I really looked up to (hmm... Jason Dango was one guy's name, and I feel bad for not remembering the other...). I met them through this guy Kurt I had in a class. Yeah, anyway.. heh... so these two guys were probably what I'd classify as Tom DeLounge and Mark Hoppus at a high school level. They were really into the music scene, and I just listened to a lot of what they had to say. The Get Up Kids had just released their first full album recently ("Four Minute Mile"), and I got to hear a lot of it through them. Actually, at the talent show that year, they and their band played two songs (one of them a cover of The Get Up Kids' "Don't Hate Me," which remains one of my favorite songs to this day).

From there, meeting with a lot of new friends, and listening to what everyone had to say and play for me, I got to hear a lot of new stuff that I just wouldn't have heard in the hick town I had been in for 18 months in Massachusetts.

I left Pennsylvania after my junior year with a pretty deep and broad horizon of new stuff I was listening to, probably leaning more on the emo-side than anything else.

I moved here to Jersey during the summer before my senior year of high school, and met my now good friend Jay working at Blockbuster. He was also REALLY big into the local music scene, and we went to a few shows.

During all this (heh..) I had been talking to this kid Matt in Florida, who I met through AOL / DragonBall / my website stuffage. He had sent me a couple mp3s from this "local band" named "A New Found Glory."

I like to think (falsely, heh) that I'm partly responsible for bringing them to New Jersey :P. Meh, they would have found their way here, eventually.

My roommate my freshman year was heavily into the street-punk scene, so I got that influence on me, too. So here we are today. I'm gonna be a junior in college, and I'll listen to just about anything thrown at me.

Listen to The Survivors. Good stuff.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/120/the ... rs-nj.html

While you're at it, you can listen to my old roommate ("Violent Matt"... hah..) and "Jay Insult" make f00lz of themselves playing live at local shows. "Londen in the Rain" is probably their best...

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/57/the_insults.html

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Post by projekt_navi » Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:26 am

i agree with mag ... AFI rules o-O 8)
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Post by Mag Launcher » Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:13 pm

Whatever. I think you are the one trying to prove your punk-ness by explaining your life story.
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Post by Rozard » Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:21 pm

Dude, who the fuck cares! By continuing this thread, you're all trying to prove superiority over each other! Give it up! Just be like "I like this music, and I was wondering if anyone else liked it." Or something like that. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!! :(
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Post by paizuri » Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:32 pm

I like Punky Brewster.
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