Premiere Pro 1.5 Odd cropping on the preview pane

Ayanefan · Post by **Ayanefan** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:48 pm

Image below shows something that I can't figure out.
Left is the input, right is the output

Project 720x480
Input file size 720x480
AVI file using FakeAVI
Avs Script:
MPEG2SOURCE("C:\AMV_Project\*hiding the song*\VOBs\Karas\Karas.d2v", cpu=6)
TFM(pp=0)
TDecimate(mode=1)
Crop(8,0,-8,-0)
LanczosResize(720,480)

Why are the sides being expanded? I see that the image is not cropped (sorry) it's the area on the output that is larger. The output also has the black border.
Export size is also 720x480.

???huh???

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:18 pm

I wonder if your problem isn't aspect ratio thing

As far as I know, 720*480 isn't correct 1,000 PAR. Correct PAR for 720*480 should be 0,9091(NTSC DV),or 0,9132(NTSC Video CD) - from what I see,I just checked,made FakeAVI myself,and checked PAR settings. Are you sure you didn't set your project as D1/DV PAL (1,067)?

Ayanefan · Post by **Ayanefan** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:31 pm

Interesting, Rapture, but I'm not sure. I did a MEP piece for Moonie with 640x480 and the exact settings and I didn't get this. It does look like 50 pixels each side is being added and then resized.

My prefs for this project is:
Editing Mode: Video for Windows
Timebase: 29.97
Frame size: 720x480
Pixel ratio: 1.0
Fields: No fields (progressive)
Display format: 30fps drop-frame timecode

Scale clips to project dimensions (unchecked, checking made no difference)

For the FakeAVI, I'm actually using VFAPIConvEN, it doesn't have any settings to speak of. It opens correctly in VirtualDub without the crop.

Still puzzling.

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:52 pm

ayanefan wrote:Pixel ratio: 1.0

Try changing that to 0,9091

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:57 pm

Damn,sorry for double post.

And try setting Editing Mode to DV Playback,and if only Editing Mode change doesn't work,try using different combinations,just like : EM : Video For Windows+PAR : 0,9091 ; EM : DV Playback+PAR : 1.0 ; EM : DV Playback+PAR : 0,9091 ; etc.

Ayanefan · Post by **Ayanefan** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:07 pm

Crap.

0.9 Pixel Ratio. That's what I needed.

Thanks Rapture. That'll teach me to screw around with non 640x480.

Crap. Now, I can't change the settings in the project after it's started. So I'll have to figure out how to get the best avisynth script to fix it.

Rapture** · Post by Rapture** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:53 am

Then if you want to continue your stuff,save it as lossless,crop out borders,and resize it back to 720*480,start a new project with 720*480(0,9091 PAR),and throw in your footage.

-Reda- · Post by **-Reda-** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:14 am

And isn't Karas anamorphic widescreen? Shouldn't that be in 848 by 480 instead of 720 by 480?

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:03 am

N0OB wrote:And isn't Karas anamorphic widescreen? Shouldn't that be in 848 by 480 instead of 720 by 480?

theres nothing wrong with editing in 720x480 resolution. you can fix up display ratios after.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:26 pm

ayanefan wrote:Crap. Now, I can't change the settings in the project after it's started. So I'll have to figure out how to get the best avisynth script to fix it.

You can, however, import your old project into a <i>new</i> project that <i>does</i> have the proper settings.