VegettoEX wrote:hackerzc wrote:Ok well here is the thing... if everyone is complaining SO much about how the finalists are chosen now (arguing that reviewers "free will" is incorrect), they will certainly complain if there are a group of judges or even worse a single person who decides. I can see the argument already, "what gives these people the right to decide... I don't agree with them blah blah blah" hmmm well lets see.. the fact that they are the friggin JUDGES, DRRRRR!!!!!!
Honestly I just think the people who are complaining simply bitch too damn much... and you can quote me on that! Knowing what I do, I know exactly why things are the way they are and some times I worry about certain things like voting bias from reviewers etc... but you don't see me complaining about it.
And for anyone to come to me with the argument "oh but you don't know what it's like"... BULLSHIT! I submitted this year as well... as an associate I can do that (plus it's tradition for me). I didn't make it either, and you know how easy it would have been to simply change results so I could have!?
See, this is exactly what I mean about the "decline of the AMV community"... everyone so worried about "oh this didn't make it" and "my video deserves better" and "respect my skills you contest running bastard". It's disgusting... seriously. You need to grow up and accept who made the finals, plain and simple..... just like I have to accept that every year for the rest of my life, I have to pay taxes. I sure as hell don't like them, and I don't agree I should have to pay them.... but I voted for my elected officials (in this case the AMV's you voted on)... all I can do now is sit back, hope that guy wins, and then he gives me the tax break I want.
Oh an TaranT... Vlad didn't even submit this year.
BTW, the list IS the final list. It's just that Antonio wanted to post it here with his official "stamp of approval" for everyone. But whatever... we now return you to your regularly scheduled flame war, already in progress.
I continue to be absolutely appalled by the way you're handling things. This is no way for someone in any amount of "power" with the content (or any responsibility, what-so-ever), to be responding to the public who submits the work.
You're exercizing a complete lack of tact, a complete lack of authoritativeness, and are making the convention/contest look extremely poor.
Congrats to all those you made the final cut; as Fungie said, don't you dare let anyone make you feel BAD about getting into the contest. Everyone, regardless of whether you made the final cut or not, should be thrilled to know that (between the main contest showings and overflow showings) that there's a potential for THOUSANDS of people to see your artwork; if that's not reward enough, I don't know what is
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I fully believe that the subject of
everything should be laid to rest until after the convention. Let's all have fun checking out the videos this weekend, relax, and then come back with a fresh mind on how to turn things around for next year, preferably without such a negative mindset.
See you this weekend!
LOL, I voice my opinion plain and simple. If you would prefer not to hear what I'm really thinking and would rather I sugar coat everything and dumb it down for the lowest common denominator, then sorry but I won't do that. I won't change my views or how I voice them simply because I work on the contest. If other organizers choose not to voice their view because they are afraid of offending people then that is their choice. Mine is to make it known exactly where I stand. No matter what I say (however it is worded) things will still be taken the wrong way.
For instance you seem to be very upset at me for speaking my mind simply because I am associated with the contest. I have never attacked you, never said anything untrue, or ever made a comment directed at you specifically, YET you continue to be offended. Explain that.
Yes I know, you keep using the argument: no one with any amount of "power" would say this or that, etc.
Says who? Because other people are afraid to speak their minds? Because you tell me that I can't say what I think?
Lets say I disagree with an argument of someone who entered the contest. Just because I disagree with that person on the subject does not mean their entry has any less chance of making the contest, nor does it mean I am trying to influence the views of others (that's fascism, and I'm totally against it). So if none of it effects the contest results exactly what is it I'm doing that is SO wrong? Where in there did I start committing crimes against humanity and actions so atrocious that I must "pay"?
Complete lack of tack? No, that would be me, telling you, to go to hell and giving no explanations otherwise. If you are referring to my telling Ashyukun to Shut up, it was because I told him to end the subject and he wouldn't. I got extremely frustrated. Even after that he still continued...
I understand you trying to defend your friend... even if the way you went about it was very annoying. For example, asking me exactly what it is I do for the contest? You likely thought I didn't do jack... that I was all talk (I'm only guessing). If that was the case you were very wrong... that's fine I hold no ill will towards you for being curious.
In fact in telling me how rude I am, you yourself are being quite rude. I'm pointing this out in hopes you will see where I'm comming from with it.
If you already knew that then I can only assume you are creating one set of rules for me, and a totally different set for yourself. That doesn't seem right somehow.
I fail to see how saying what I really think in any way diminishes my authority or makes anyone look bad though.
The only people that I would loose any authority over, or would think I look bad are those who do not agree with me (which is their right)... and I don't even have to say a single word to have people disagree or dislike me.... take Antonio for example.
He has barely said a word (I'd also like to remind everyone that Matt Pyson tended to be quiet as well), and there are people who dislike him and think he's running the contest wrong, to spite the fact that he has done nothing wrong. I'd like someone to explain the mentality behind that; "Oh this guy does not talk much, I don't like him, he's doing a bad job".
Oh yes, the delays.... can't be helped really. When you are doing a contest on such a scale as Otakon there are a great many people involved in the process. Trying to get all of them to send stuff when you want it and do this or that at this or that time is VERY hard. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Everyone thinks they know how to run things so much better. However when the convention goes looking for people interested in helping with the contest, those same people with all their opinions and comments about how things can be better just magically disappear.
We love to get feedback form people... but at least keep it constructive. Demanding certain people post or simply saying "prescreenings are rigged get rid of them" just does not cut it folks.
When it's all said and done people will be people... and I'm a person, not a machine. If I feel the need to say something I'll say it, and it's usually when things are getting out of hand. But it's amazing how it's always the people who disagree with you that always say how you are "not handling the situation properly". The ones who do agree are usually content in that fact (just an observation). Guess that's human nature... people just wanting to be right and all.
I have absolutely no problem taking crap from anyone and having fingers pointed at me. So if it would make you feel better then fine, I am wrong, you are right, and I'm a bastard. Does that help any?
Really I just think you don't agree with what or how I say things, and are attempting to censor me becuase of it. You have absolutely every right not to agree... but I also have every right to say it. All I can say is it's who I am, and that won't change.
I can be reached at
hackerzc@comcast.net if you want to talk further.
