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Never Have Known

Post by s0matic » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:00 pm

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A drama/romance video set to Welcome to the N.H.K.! and Kelly Clarkson.

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Re: Never Have Known

Post by Kimberly » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:27 pm

KELLY CLARKSON ! -loves kelly- -getz it-

-editz- :

:) I didn't really like the flashes you put in the beginning of the video. I also didn't like the planty stuff you put at 2:33.. o.o That's about it XD

Nice job tho ;D -likey-
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Re: Never Have Known

Post by s0matic » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:09 pm

Kimberly wrote:KELLY CLARKSON ! -loves kelly- -getz it-

-editz- :

:) I didn't really like the flashes you put in the beginning of the video. I also didn't like the planty stuff you put at 2:33.. o.o That's about it XD

Nice job tho ;D -likey-
The planty stuff was a bit of an experiment. :mrgreen:

Thanks for the input :)

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Re: Never Have Known

Post by Taite » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:07 am

HAHA! Haa... Never Have Known... NHK. I see what you did there :P

Totally getting just for that, even though I haven't seen the anime so my crit may not be as great.
/gets

edit: (put my crit in a spoiler box because I ended up writing a lot :|
Spoiler :
I think your intro thing should be an outro. Credits in the beginning just annoy me for some reason, so I feel compelled to turn the video off whenever I see it. It's just a personal preference though.

The flashes from :15-:21 weren't really needed, imo. That part of the song is so slow in general that it was a tad disrupting.
The scene selection where she sings about a dream was really well done. I liked that part a lot.
But :21 to :34 felt... I hate using this term, "oversynced." I don't think it was necessary to sync the video to nearly every beat. I think extending the length of some crossfades or even cutting some out would have created a "smoother" effect, so it didn't feel choppy every transition.
:35 onward... okay, it's definitely "smoother." It feels much calmer and the sync is more fitting to the song, imo.
Loved the flashes at :50. Good job with that.

Hm, the video seems to have slowed down in chorus more than before. Which is good, it looks a lot better, though odd because the beginning was slow, and the video was fast, then you get to the chorus and the video is slower. It went from syncing to the beats to lyrical sync.

Didn't like that weird cross-fade at 1:08.
The clips being overlayed from 1:15 onward were odd to me. The transitions that took place on the clips that were overlaying made it look choppy.
Also, it was around 1:09 that I thought maybe it was getting a tad too slow.

The crossfade at 1:24 was another weird one. The clip that is being introduced and is crossfading through the beginning clip ends up looking like an orphan frame (but not, I just can't think of the term) because close to when the transition ends, it switches clips.
1:33... aah! return of the flashes! I think that you should try to keep a good balance between lyrical and beat sync. You had lyrical sync going, then bam! A flash to the beat.
The flashes at 1:49 felt choppy to me, but weren't that bothersome.
Up until 2:05, I have no complaints, except that I am getting tired of the so many crossfades. The glow-y transition at 2:05 though was meh. It felt too strong for a transition between such clips.
Up until 2:32, no complaints. Really liked the part with the girl falling off and stuff. Until the glow flashes and all of the weird squiggly lines. There were no such squiggly lines in the video before, so it felt odd introduced so late, know what I mean? Don't think they were too necessary either.

And up until the end, no complaints. Really liked it.

Summary: I think there should be a balance between the lyrical and beat sync. Also, crossfades, while they were definitely needed, I think there were too many. Didn't think I'd be saying that, but it got on my nerves sometimes. And the flashes could have been cut (and the squiggs) and it still would have been good.
Also, I had no idea there was so much romance in NHK! All videos I've seen with it were comedy and upbeat and hardly any romance at all (though I've seen that short-haired chick once or twice.)

Overall, it came out pretty good. 3.5/5 :up:
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Re: Never Have Known

Post by s0matic » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:42 am

A lot to address, very much appreciate the input :D.
Taite wrote:HAHA! Haa... Never Have Known... NHK. I see what you did there :P
Drat, I've been found out :x
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Taite wrote:I think your intro thing should be an outro. Credits in the beginning just annoy me for some reason, so I feel compelled to turn the video off whenever I see it. It's just a personal preference though.
I agree. I guess my reasoning for front-loading it this time is to change-things up a bit. Also it didn't occur to me that I could put a simple chapter file in there so if someone wanted they could skip the intro, but a bit too late I guess :sweat:.
Taite wrote:The flashes from :15-:21 weren't really needed, imo. That part of the song is so slow in general that it was a tad disrupting.
Noted for sure. I usually wanna avoid stuff like this, but it must have just whooshed me when I edited it.
Taite wrote:But :21 to :34 felt... I hate using this term, "oversynced." I don't think it was necessary to sync the video to nearly every beat. I think extending the length of some crossfades or even cutting some out would have created a "smoother" effect, so it didn't feel choppy every transition.
I disagree a bit here. It might be my brain ignoring some of the transitions going on, but I felt out of all the oversynced (I agree my video definitely is at some parts) parts of the video, the "flow" of this section clicked in my head the most. Nice to see the other side of the coin, though.
Taite wrote:Hm, the video seems to have slowed down in chorus more than before. Which is good, it looks a lot better, though odd because the beginning was slow, and the video was fast, then you get to the chorus and the video is slower. It went from syncing to the beats to lyrical sync.
Glad you found this chorus generally favorable :) . Ironically, this part of the whole video felt the most "flat" to me, and it just might be ADD talking, but I felt this part would have got the most flak for being "boring."
Taite wrote:Didn't like that weird cross-fade at 1:08.
Evidence of me trying to compensate for me feeling it to be "flat." It looked off to me without it, but it just looked "slightly-less" off with it, if that makes any sense.
Taite wrote:Also, it was around 1:09 that I thought maybe it was getting a tad too slow.
I agree, ties in with what I said above :o
Taite wrote:The crossfade at 1:24 was another weird one. The clip that is being introduced and is crossfading through the beginning clip ends up looking like an orphan frame (but not, I just can't think of the term) because close to when the transition ends, it switches clips.
This was mentioned while I was beta'ing, but I ignored it. I probably should have listened :sweat:
Taite wrote:The flashes at 1:49 felt choppy to me, but weren't that bothersome.
I agree. That was one of the last parts I edited and honestly I could feel my creative juices being empty then, so it was like "drag drop SMASH".
Taite wrote:Up until 2:05, I have no complaints, except that I am getting tired of the so many crossfades. The glow-y transition at 2:05 though was meh. It felt too strong for a transition between such clips.
IMO this part would have more weight after seeing this part in the series, but I can't fault that. Noted.
Taite wrote:Up until 2:32, no complaints. Really liked the part with the girl falling off and stuff. Until the glow flashes and all of the weird squiggly lines. There were no such squiggly lines in the video before, so it felt odd introduced so late, know what I mean? Don't think they were too necessary either.
This part was what initially sparked the idea of this video, and overall I'm satisfied with how it turned out. My convictions for syncing this part were pretty strong given that, so it would feel a bit "off" for me leave this part empty. I guess it was a matter of "how" I would sync it. Given what I picked, I can totally see this part being hit or miss.
Taite wrote:And up until the end, no complaints. Really liked it.
Thanks :D
Taite wrote:Also, I had no idea there was so much romance in NHK! All videos I've seen with it were comedy and upbeat and hardly any romance at all (though I've seen that short-haired chick once or twice.)
Bit of a spoiler, but there's not much "romance" footage left in the series :P. I'd kinda feel sorry if I inspired someone to watch it due to the romance factor, then have them watch it and go "WTF?!" :uhoh:


Thanks again for the input~ |:>

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