Aluminum Studios returns

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:02 pm

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People used to laughed at, shunned, imprisoned, or even worse for saying that the world was round, for thinking that the Earth revolved around the sun, for saying "I'm not content with the current line of thinking, I want to explore other possiblities" and then trying to share that with others. I see things haven't changed much.
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Sense of perspective? What's that? These are CARTOONS AND MUSIC WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE! THAT'S LIFE AND DEATH! People are BEING IMPRISONED FOR -

wait, people are disagreeing with them on internet message boards? That's JUST like being thrown in prison!!!

Anyway, my point stands, and I do find it amusing that the retracting just reiterated it - "Now that all those common people can do it, it's not special anymore."

I'm sorry you don't like AMVs anymore, Mr. Milberry. Fun while it lasted, I hope.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:08 pm

I can't wait for you to put up the rest of your videos. I had a number of them on cd about a year ago but I lost all of those disks.

aluminumstudios · Post by **aluminumstudios** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:14 pm

I have ADSL so uploading is a pain and if I have P2P software downloading stuff it's hopeless, so it will take me a little while. I'm trying to decide if I want to go through the pain of trying to re-encode some things before I upload them (to re-encode I need to dig out the masters, write an AVS script to tack the title screen on and resize, then encoding it a number of times until I find just the right settings ....)

I'll try to get the rest up sometime soon though and make a post once I do.

Out of curiosity, what tends to be the preferred format? I alwaysed used to just use MPEG1 but lately I've been happy with divx compatible Xvid ...

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:23 pm

I prefer Xvid 2-pass with the divx fourcc myself. I like to make an mpeg version also though and host that on my own site for people with slow computers and people that can't/won't install divx...

aluminumstudios · Post by **aluminumstudios** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:24 pm

SaratheBoring - go away. I'm not nit picking words or dealing with you anymore ... just shew. If you want to talk about AMVs or what OK, but if you're going to be sarcastic and continually, completely, mis-interpret what someone says find some other thread.

I gave you a chance when I asked to meet you and say hi at Tekkoshocon and you basically said that we were on different levels and thus couldn't speak because of that ... so don't speak to me now.

Unless you want to talk about anime related items or be friendly, this is the last time I am going ever reply to you.

aluminumstudios · Post by **aluminumstudios** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:50 pm

Corran Productions wrote:I prefer Xvid 2-pass with the divx fourcc myself. I like to make an mpeg version also though and host that on my own site for people with slow computers and people that can't/won't install divx...

Universal compatibility was my reason for using MPEG1 for the lonstest time, but I just can't tease the quality out of it that I can with 2-pass xvid.

The copy of my video "Adolescence" which I just uploaded to the ORG is a sexy looking Xvid. Unfortunatly I can't host dual formats right now so I'll need to decide on one or the other for each video ...

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:52 pm

Then do Xvid. There are enough popular videos in Xvid format to the point where EVERYONE has it.

Just look at Euphoria

aluminumstudios · Post by **aluminumstudios** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:58 pm

Yeah, I agree. A few years ago playability was a much larger concern than it is now. Why limit my quality (on the ones that I think are worth re-encoding) anymore ...

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:59 pm

Beowulf wrote:Then do Xvid. There are enough popular videos in Xvid format to the point where EVERYONE has it.

Just look at Euphoria

Not everyone has XviD per se. Most people have DivX5 or ffdshow, both of which have various rendering bugs with XviD output. (XviD itself actually generates MPEG-4 compliant video streams, but not everything can decode that data reliably.)

It can be tricky to get XviD encoding parameters just right so that (1) it looks good but (2) maintains compatibility with older software out there.

There's also the problem of the CPU power required to decode XviD video. That is, it's much higher. I have been able to play MPEG-1s on just about any platform that supports even basic video playback. On the other hand, I've been able to choke a P4 @ 1.7 GHz playing back a 704x480 XviD file. It wasn't an encoding error; rather, it was because

(1) XviD decoding is more processor-intensive
(2) the P4 was busy with other tasks
(3) the P4 architecture sucks

Most people are sensible about this kind of stuff and don't distribute in 480p, but XviD can still take a sizable amount of CPU time to decode smaller files. I've also noticed that most people do not watch AMVs without doing something else on their computer, which eats into the available time even more. So software ubiquity isn't the only factor.

Personally, I'd say just do DivX-compatible XviD.

Of course, I also advocate muxing XviD streams marked as XviD into Matroska containers with Vorbis audio streams, so I may not have the most valid opinion when it comes to maintaining compatibility.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:59 pm

Yeah in that case do Xvid like Beo says.

: )