DSM-IV 295.3

Fall_Child42 · Post by **Fall_Child42** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:48 am

this turned out very very awesome indeed. One of the things i'm happy that you did godix was that you spent a good amount of time with people (other then your wife) that actually suffered from the illness you are trying to portray. So many people in all sorts of media and on all sorts of topics like to talk about things but the only research they do is read books, or talk to professors. It seems so obvious to go actually ask the people with the condition.

OtakuGray · Post by **OtakuGray** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:25 pm

I think that this amv lacked in the areas where Lain was seeing things but, other than that it was generally disturbing and really got to me. I kind of like that after watching it all i could think about was this amv and the voices. Its like...after hearing negative things thrown around a lot it sits with your mind....

I also liked how you ended it with the cutting and how the voices died down. That was not only accurate, but clever.

I can safely say i enjoyed this, sorry Godix.

MimS · Post by **MimS** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:57 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:This was fantastic, but I don't ever plan on watching it again.

This

godix · Post by **godix** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:35 pm

Dr.Dinosaur wrote:this turned out very very awesome indeed. One of the things i'm happy that you did godix was that you spent a good amount of time with people (other then your wife) that actually suffered from the illness you are trying to portray. So many people in all sorts of media and on all sorts of topics like to talk about things but the only research they do is read books, or talk to professors. It seems so obvious to go actually ask the people with the condition.

Yes, it does seem rather obvious doesn't it? Yet back when I started researching, I decided to do this video specifically because I had difficulty finding where anyone had bothered to do it.

OtakuGray wrote:I think that this amv lacked in the areas where Lain was seeing things but, other than that it was generally disturbing and really got to me. I kind of like that after watching it all i could think about was this amv and the voices. Its like...after hearing negative things thrown around a lot it sits with your mind....

What happened to the girl who walked past her as she was going to school? Was there a guy really on the street staring at her? Did her entire school staring at her? What about the chalkboard and the girl who was going to kill her? Who was she talking to at the end?

I kept most of it intentionally vague on what was 'real' and what was in her mind. Most schizophrenics don't just see things that can be dismissed offhand as not real, not all the time at least. Many of the firsthand reports mention some delusions as things that could easily have been real, such as a guy standing on a street corner watching a girl walk to school. So no, I didn't focus on visual delusions with the video, but there are several in it.

I also liked how you ended it with the cutting and how the voices died down. That was not only accurate, but clever.

Ah good. I had problems with the cutting scene. Until a rather late beta, I was using a different scene that looked like it was suicide (because in the anime I got it from, it was). I was hoping the final would come off as cutting instead of attempted suicide.

OtakuGray · Post by **OtakuGray** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:26 pm

OtakuGray wrote:I think that this amv lacked in the areas where Lain was seeing things but, other than that it was generally disturbing and really got to me. I kind of like that after watching it all i could think about was this amv and the voices. Its like...after hearing negative things thrown around a lot it sits with your mind....
What happened to the girl who walked past her as she was going to school? Was there a guy really on the street staring at her? Did her entire school staring at her? What about the chalkboard and the girl who was going to kill her? Who was she talking to at the end?

I kept most of it intentionally vague on what was 'real' and what was in her mind. Most schizophrenics don't just see things that can be dismissed offhand as not real, not all the time at least. Many of the firsthand reports mention some delusions as things that could easily have been real, such as a guy standing on a street corner watching a girl walk to school. So no, I didn't focus on visual delusions with the video, but there are several in it.

I just felt like maybe some of the people could have been emphasized better to illustrate the point more. You emphasized well on the man looking at her as she walked by him, and the girl that looked at her as she passed by, but after that it felt maybe TOO vague...but im not sure.

But seriously though, this was great. I just love the idea of looking into the mind of a schizophrenic.

Ijexis · Post by **Ijexis** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:05 am

Enjoyed that enough to put it into my top 10.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:07 am

OtakuGray wrote:
OtakuGray wrote:I think that this amv lacked in the areas where Lain was seeing things but, other than that it was generally disturbing and really got to me. I kind of like that after watching it all i could think about was this amv and the voices. Its like...after hearing negative things thrown around a lot it sits with your mind....
What happened to the girl who walked past her as she was going to school? Was there a guy really on the street staring at her? Did her entire school staring at her? What about the chalkboard and the girl who was going to kill her? Who was she talking to at the end?

I kept most of it intentionally vague on what was 'real' and what was in her mind. Most schizophrenics don't just see things that can be dismissed offhand as not real, not all the time at least. Many of the firsthand reports mention some delusions as things that could easily have been real, such as a guy standing on a street corner watching a girl walk to school. So no, I didn't focus on visual delusions with the video, but there are several in it.
I just felt like maybe some of the people could have been emphasized better to illustrate the point more. You emphasized well on the man looking at her as she walked by him, and the girl that looked at her as she passed by, but after that it felt maybe TOO vague...but im not sure. But seriously though, this was great. I just love the idea of looking into the mind of a schizophrenic.

The vagueness helps the atmosphere if you ask me, It's how i'd wanna portray the video anyway.

Ijexis · Post by **Ijexis** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:25 am

"It's not across; up."
That particular line sticks out to me each time I watch mainly because I've had this discussion several times with a friend of mine.

Kitsuner · Post by **Kitsuner** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 am

「ijexis」 wrote:"It's not across; up."
That particular line sticks out to me each time I watch mainly because I've had this discussion several times with a friend of mine.

Something I found interesting about that scene is that she actually had an up scar. Little details like that really flesh out the scene.

godix · Post by **godix** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:09 am

Kitsuner wrote:
「ijexis」 wrote:"It's not across; up."
That particular line sticks out to me each time I watch mainly because I've had this discussion several times with a friend of mine.
Something I found interesting about that scene is that she actually had an up scar. Little details like that really flesh out the scene.

I put the scars there to show this is a somewhat regular thing for her, it isn't an unusually bad day or something. Plus cutters generally do have a lot of scars on their arms. The up scar is because sometimes she listened to the voices...

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