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Post by Quu » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:51 pm

Here is a wierd question

what is considered acceptable fun raising tactics in AMVs?

the org uses the donation model, which seams to be the easiest on the concience, if a bit scattered in coverage...

what about other methods? what crosses the line, what does not?

if donation is it... where does it cross the line from descreet to anoying?
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Post by EarthCurrent » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:55 pm

Eh? This requires a more detailed explanation of the function, purpose, and reasoning behind the request for money.

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Post by paizuri » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:58 pm

Are you talking about raising funds for sites like this or for individuals? I would frown on anyone who says, "Give me money to make AMVs!" rather than just accepting donations.
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Post by Quu » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:02 pm

hum... mainly thinking out loud....

it could be various reasons and circumstances

like
an AMV editor trying to raise money for R2 DVDs
an AMV editor trying to travel to a far away con
an AMV editor trying to raise money for new equipment
an AMV contest cordinator trying to raise money for equipment or prizes
an AMV event cordinator trying to raise money for a special event or special contest
an AMV archiver trying raise money to service equipment, or upgrade equipment
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:10 pm

Personally, I would draw the line where it crosses over from the "event" (or whatever purpose / cause needs the funds) being in use by one person to being in use by many individuals.

If it's for one person to buy source material for a music video, I don't see any justification in my helping them buy it. Their creating a music video isn't helping myself, or anyone else in particular, in any way.

I know certain people have asked for money to buy source material, and that, deep down, pretty much disgusts me. The rest of us have to pay our way for our anime, and I think everyone else should be on the same playing field. This isn't a cheap hobby, and we all knew that from the start.

If it's for the upgrading of, say, necessary equipment (such as your own, Quu), that's another story. You're helping many people with what you do, and it's not a self-centered purpose. A convention's contest may or may not happen (at all) without the materials in question. We're all effected and helped by such materials, and helping (via money) is one way we're able to "pay back" (in a sense) what help WE'VE received.

Then again, that's me :D.
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Post by EarthCurrent » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:12 pm

Quu wrote:hum... mainly thinking out loud....

it could be various reasons and circumstances

like
an AMV editor trying to raise money for R2 DVDs
I would say: Suck up the expense yourself... :?
Quu wrote:an AMV editor trying to travel to a far away con
I would say: I wouldn't pay for someone else's vacation... :?
Quu wrote:an AMV editor trying to raise money for new equipment
I would say: Get a second job... :?
Quu wrote:an AMV contest cordinator trying to raise money for equipment or prizes
I would say: This might garner support from me... :?
Quu wrote:an AMV event cordinator trying to raise money for a special event or special contest
I would say: Again, maybe, so long as there are protections in place that if the event did not go through I'd get my money back... :?
Quu wrote:an AMV archiver trying raise money to service equipment, or upgrade equipment
I would say: Depends on the archiver. Phade, yeah, he has a proven track record. For others, probably not. :?

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Post by Quu » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:31 pm

ok... lets say its for a casue that you would suport...

then what methods would be acceptable... or is donation it?
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Post by iserlohn » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:06 pm

No, we will not sponsor your purchase of the LoGH DVD set =P - you *did* see that the R1 survey is up right?

As far as other stuff....I ain't touching that with a 10 foot pole.
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Post by Nappy » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:13 pm

I wish cons would put out more money so no one has to pay outta their pocket just to get a contest running :l

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Post by VicBond007 » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:18 pm

Make a DVD, do it all up real professional like, charge $7 for it so you make a 30 cent profit. Oh wait, apparently that's not acceptable at all around here.

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