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Nemoxs · Post by **Nemoxs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:00 pm

It is protected by an internet law right now, but it might not be in a few months, who the fuck knows? who the fuck cares?

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:55 pm

Nemoxs wrote:It is protected by an internet law right now, but it might not be in a few months, who the fuck knows? who the fuck cares?

Which law, exactly?

Nemoxs · Post by **Nemoxs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:13 pm

The same law that protects people who rip images off a dvd and post them online. It's basicly the same thing, we're ripping images (a larger amount) off the dvd and putting them to music...

Who cares anyway? I mean if they havnt pressed charges yet, and they OBVIOUSLY know about this place, who cares? if they do press charges, we can all chip in to pay them off and shut this place down, it's life, shit happens, dont worry intill it happens.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:22 pm

Nemoxs wrote:The same law that protects people who rip images off a dvd and post them online. It's basicly the same thing, we're ripping images (a larger amount) off the dvd and putting them to music...

it's the same thing, except it's still illegal. just because there's people doing it doesn't mean that its not illegal.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:47 pm

Nemoxs wrote:The same law that protects people who rip images off a dvd and post them online. It's basicly the same thing, we're ripping images (a larger amount) off the dvd and putting them to music...

No, it's not the same thing.
"Fair use" is what allows people to use frame-captures from a DVD and post them. AMVs, in 99% of cases, do NOT fall under that definition. They instead fall under the definition of "an unauthorized derivative of a copyrighted work", and distribution of such is illegal.

Here, do your homework.

"Most people don't care" is not the same as "it's legal". You could make some philosophical arguments about society and law...but I won't do that. It just makes the situation worse than it already is.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 5:53 pm

trythil wrote:
Nemoxs wrote:The same law that protects people who rip images off a dvd and post them online. It's basicly the same thing, we're ripping images (a larger amount) off the dvd and putting them to music...
No, it's not the same thing.
"Fair use" is what allows people to use frame-captures from a DVD and post them. AMVs, in 99% of cases, do NOT fall under that definition. They instead fall under the definition of "an unauthorized derivative of a copyrighted work", and distribution of such is illegal.

Here, do your homework.

"Most people don't care" is not the same as "it's legal". You could make some philosophical arguments about society and law...but I won't do that. It just makes the situation worse than it already is.

Errata:

(1) This only applies in the US.
(2) Rephrase "AMVs, in 99% of cases, do NOT fall under that definition. They instead fall under the definition of "an unauthorized derivative of a copyrighted work"" to "AMVs do NOT fall under that definition. Instead, in 99% of cases, they fall under the definition of "an unauthorized derivative of a copyrighted work"". The first wording is misleading, and there are a significant number of authorized AMVs out there.
(3) Here's section 107, Fair Use doctrine. The document admits that "fair use" is a rather gray area, but it's pretty clear that AMVs don't need to be subjected to this analysis -- they're derivative works, plain and simple.

Addendum:

I, like many other people here, really don't care about abiding by these laws when I do AMV work. I'm too small of a target to waste money on, I'm not making any money off my work anyway, and I'm not stealing money from the distributor or the animation studio. I'm just pointing stuff out...

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:30 pm

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YouTube · Post by **XStylus** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:39 pm

Nemoxs wrote:No, not yet it isnt.

In the RIAA's eyes, if it involves anything other than playing a song from a store bought CD on a standard CD player, it's illigal.

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:19 pm

Maybe if I don't believe there are laws against it, it won't be illegal.

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paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:28 pm

I think you need more fairy dust.

AnimeMusicVideos.org

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