help me with widescreen please

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:48 pm

firstly, nup i hav no idea

secondly , nup i dont noe how to use avisynth

DemonSpawn · Post by **DemonSpawn** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:24 pm

For name/aspect ratio he means like [anime name]/[...uh...tv(4:3) or widescreen(16:9 I think)]

Jebadia, did you mean resolution instead of aspect ratio? I mean, they're trying to get widescreen, so they're probably using 4:3 as an aspect ratio.

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:37 am

oh aspect ratio well, i dont noe im trying to get it widescreen sooo im guessing 16:9

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:12 am

Ninjafox wrote:oh aspect ratio well, i dont noe im trying to get it widescreen sooo im guessing 16:9

Well, yes, that's the aspect ratio you want. What we want to know is: what aspect ratio is your source in right now?

shirohamada · Post by **shirohamada** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:14 am

if the source is 16:9 it is already widescreen.

SQ · Post by SQ » Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:22 pm

shirohamada wrote:if the source is 16:9 it is already widescreen.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:32 am

ohhh i see, told ya im noob lol -_- . umm well when u export from movie maker thats the aspect ratio right now. So is that 4:3?

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:04 pm

Ninjafox wrote:ohhh i see, told ya im noob lol -_- . umm well when u export from movie maker thats the aspect ratio right now. So is that 4:3?

Well yes, WMM forces everything into a 4:3 aspect ratio. But usually when you want to make a widescreen video, you make your source widescreen before editing with it.

One way to do this is with AVISynth. Assuming you've got DVD source that's normal 4:3 TV (and assuming it IVTC's nicely), you want to make a script that looks like this:

MPEG2Source("C:\mypath\myd2v.d2v")
# note: the next two lines may require tweaking if the source doesn't IVTC nicely
Telecide(1)
Decimate(5)
LanczosResize(640,480)
Crop(0,-64,0,-64)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)

This will produce a letterboxed 640x480 video, which is perfect for working with in Windows Movie Maker. You may find that you don't want to crop your picture quite that much; you can use lower values, but for best compression later on, you'll want to use a multiple of 16. And make sure the borders you add in the last step are exactly as big as the regions you cropped.

HOWEVER. If the DVD is a widescreen source (movies, Chobits, Haibane Renmei, and certain other series), the above script won't give you what you want. You need to determine whether the movie is letterboxed (big ol' black borders on it; ex.: the Evangelion movies (because the people at Manga Entertainment can't author a good DVD)) or anamorphic (takes up the full 720x480 resolution; ex.: Spirited Away). You can tell this simply by looking at your D2V project file and seeing whether there are black borders or not.

If it's letterboxed, then all you need is:

MPEG2Source("C:\mypath\myd2v.d2v")
# note: the next two lines may require tweaking if the source doesn't IVTC nicely;
# if you used Force FILM in DVD2AVI, remove them
Telecide(1)
Decimate(5)
LanczosResize(640,480)

If it's anamorphic, then use this:

MPEG2Source("C:\mypath\myd2v.d2v")
# note: the next two lines may require tweaking if the source doesn't IVTC nicely;
# if you used Force FILM in DVD2AVI, remove them
Telecide(1)
Decimate(5)
LanczosResize(640,352)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)

I hope this helps.

Scintilla.

AMVfreak · Post by **AMVfreak** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:02 pm

heh nice
thats what im talking about Scintilla
8)

Ninjafox · Post by **Ninjafox** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:29 am

do u think u can make me a guide

, nah only joking.