looking for a "flash" effect on wmm

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looking for a "flash" effect on wmm

Postby Jasta85 » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:14 am

ok, i know windows movie maker is the bedrock of all movie makers and is extreamly limited in its special effects, however just on my last amv i found a few new gimics that i hadnt known about before. so just in case it happenes to be hidden in there i was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is, or some way to replicate, a flash effect

what i mean by flash effect is the type of thing people us on action amvs to keep in synch with the beat, the screen flashes quickly and it is very useful for keeping an amv in synch even if the actual anime does not match with the song. up until now i have simply synched every single action possible with the songs and while i am proud of my amvs it would be extreamly useful to have this tool to help with my faster paced amvs.

even if wmm doesnt have this feature is there a way to mimic it in some way? i tried fade out to white and fade in again but it was too slow

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Postby Gepetto » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:39 am

You could do that by creating a white image, importing it, and then applying the speed up effect several times until it lasts little enough. Then just put it between two clips at the desired time. Incidentally, that should work with any color flash of your choice.

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Postby keskin_snape » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:30 pm

Actually you can make you're own effects for WMM

http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/Forums/Default.aspx

People post the effects/transitions that they've made themselves. All you have to do is copy and paste into notepad, save as an [effectname.xml] file under programfiles/moviemaker/shared/addontfx/

Then the effect should be in there the next time you load up MM. There are also packages of effects you can buy, I brought a really good pan/crop/zoom kit with heaps of variations. Plus there is a profile editor you can download which enables you to save as High Definition WMV files.

Here's some more links that can help...

http://www.hitthebongo.co.uk/videofx/20 ... mages.html
http://www.papajohn.org/
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Postby Minion » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:34 pm

hah, theres actually a WMM user group!
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Postby Kariudo » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:36 pm

I feel sorry for them, using that p.o.s. excuse for a program

but to their credit...I'm suprised that they can make WMM a bit more like other programs (at least with the effects)
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Postby Orwell » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:40 pm

Just a suggestion, I'd avoid white flashes in nearly all cases and instead go with a black flash, or another, muted color. Those bright flashes are almost always a automatic delete for me, especially when used en masse. They're a pain to watch, and if your watching in the dark, even worse.

Unless the whole point of the video is to visually rape the viewer.
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Postby Minion » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:50 pm

visual rape?
like ripping out someones eyes and skull fucking them?
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Postby Orwell » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:12 pm

Something like that.
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Postby Willen » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:26 am

Gepetto wrote:You could do that by creating a white image, importing it, and then applying the speed up effect several times until it lasts little enough. Then just put it between two clips at the desired time. Incidentally, that should work with any color flash of your choice.

Good luck!

You shouldn't need to adjust the speed of the white image, just make the duration very short. Import a white still image and adjust its duration. Although, WMM may limit how short a clip can be, maybe 2 or 3 frames is the shortest it will allow.

Alternatively, you could do a really fast fade-out to white, then fade-in quickly from white.

And yes, this is a way to visual rapage...
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Postby Gepetto » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:38 am

AFAIK, wmm doesn't let you alter the duration of a still. That's why I said "use the acceleration". Then again, I've only ever used the first build of WMM 2, so maybe other versions can do that.

keskin_snape's suggestion seems better than mine, though.
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Postby Willen » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:00 am

Gepetto wrote:AFAIK, wmm doesn't let you alter the duration of a still. That's why I said "use the acceleration". Then again, I've only ever used the first build of WMM 2, so maybe other versions can do that.

keskin_snape's suggestion seems better than mine, though.

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You can import a still image and drag the trim bar to reduce the duration of time the image is shown. Add 'Speed Up, Double' to that and the duration is halved (or add 'Slow Down, Half' then make the clip as short as possible and then remove the slow down). IIRC, too many speed ups or slow downs makes WMM crash, so Slow - Trim - remove Slow might be better. Also, you can change the default duration for pictures added to the storyboard or timeline in the Options menu. The shortest duration is 0.125 seconds, though (which equates to 1/8th of a second or 3.75 frames/second assuming a 30fps framerate).
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Postby Gepetto » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:07 am

Ah, you meant "trim". I thought you were talking of some duration control like in Premiere...


Slow-Trim-Remove Slow... Clever, I wouldn't have thought of that.
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Postby Cornwiggle » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:31 pm

Kariudo wrote:I feel sorry for them, using that p.o.s. excuse for a program

but to their credit...I'm suprised that they can make WMM a bit more like other programs (at least with the effects)



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Postby *Storm_Rose* » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:03 pm

WMM was my first program, and I used it for 5 months, so I think I’ve pretty much learned all the tricks. ^_^

Anywho, what I use to do for flash effect was to cut the clips into tiny bits and use the fade in from white/black effect (whichever one suits you).

Hope that helps. ^^
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Postby Hagaren Viper » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:30 pm

*Storm_Rose* wrote:WMM was my first program, and I used it for 5 months, so I think I’ve pretty much learned all the tricks. ^_^

Anywho, what I use to do for flash effect was to cut the clips into tiny bits and use the fade in from white/black effect (whichever one suits you).

Hope that helps. ^^
Pretty much the way I did it as well. If the flash is not fast enough, make the clip a little shorter until you have just the right flash. Just be careful not to everdo it, nobody likes going blind. :)
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