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Postby Castor Troy » Mon Jul 08, 2002 5:17 pm

Thanks guys and if you're having download troubles, use DAP or Getright. My friend's site is supposedly hosted on a professional business server which is owned by his dad and I dunno why it keeps pausing the downloads...
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wow...

Postby dmg0003 » Mon Jul 08, 2002 6:17 pm

Just saw this at AX... Excellent video!

Man, was the video contest screwed up or what? First all the technical difficulties, it was FREEZING in there, and we were all hungry because we didn't have time to eat before getting there. :(

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Postby BigshotSpike » Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:06 am

I remember seeing this vid at Sakuracon and it was just awesome! I'll check it put sometime and leave you a review.

Keep up the great work man!
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I dont get it

Postby TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:16 am

Someone explain to me whats wrong with sending your vids to has many contest has possible? Maybe I am missing something, but if I had a video I thought was good, I would want has many people to see it has possible, and to try to win has many awards has possible. Why is that considered a bad thing to do. So what if I keep beating people, thats cause mine is considered better. If they won and mine wasnt there, doesnt that kinda cheapen their victory anyway. Its like if I tried to fight the World Heavy Champion, and won because the other guy didnt show. Yeah Im the champion, but I dont know if I really could have beaten the previous one. Kinda takes away from the whole victory thing.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:26 pm

The idea is that it's not supposed to be about victory, it's supposed to be about sharing your creation, getting it into a contest, and seeing it on the big screen. Anything that comes after that is just a pat on the back for having something that was good. There's also quite a few people (including judges) that travel to most of the bigger cons anyway; so if your video plays at all of them, it's going to get played out and boring to people. And if you go to all those cons and 'win', it just makes it look like you let 'winning' go to your head and take the place of AMVs themselves. In short, it makes you look like a jackhole, and a troll to boot. It's not like you get a million dollars for winning a contest anyway.

This whole 'I have to win' thing is a trend I'm seeing with newer creators, and I personally think it's kind of sad. It's the making (and seeing) of AMVs that is really supposed to be for your enjoyment, not the aftermath of your AMVs.
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Postby SpPANDA » Wed Jul 10, 2002 12:26 pm

FirestormXIII wrote:The idea is that it's not supposed to be about victory, it's supposed to be about sharing your creation, getting it into a contest, and seeing it on the big screen. Anything that comes after that is just a pat on the back for having something that was good. There's also quite a few people (including judges) that travel to most of the bigger cons anyway; so if your video plays at all of them, it's going to get played out and boring to people. And if you go to all those cons and 'win', it just makes it look like you let 'winning' go to your head and take the place of AMVs themselves. In short, it makes you look like a jackhole, and a troll to boot. It's not like you get a million dollars for winning a contest anyway.

This whole 'I have to win' thing is a trend I'm seeing with newer creators, and I personally think it's kind of sad. It's the making (and seeing) of AMVs that is really supposed to be for your enjoyment, not the aftermath of your AMVs.

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Postby phantom_112 » Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:42 pm

Damn crap... Download doesnt want to work for me... pausing and whatnot...
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Postby Castor Troy » Wed Jul 10, 2002 7:44 pm

phantom_112 wrote:Damn crap... Download doesnt want to work for me... pausing and whatnot...


Uploading to the backup server as we speak...
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I see

Postby TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:55 pm

I definately understand where you're coming from but I still wouldnt hold anything against people for sending it to a lot of cons. I mean, you said the point was to just show it to people right? Well, if thats your goal than even more reason to send to a lot of cons.
Also, I dont see the "need to win" thing has so sad though, since it can be a driving force for people to work harder to create better vids. So maybe the motivation is kinda vain, but the outcome can be positive non the less.
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Postby jbone » Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:07 pm

The people who make the best videos are driven by inspiration and imagination.

The people who make the drek which just looks like everything else are driven by the perspiration of wanting to win awards. :-P
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Postby Castor Troy » Wed Jul 10, 2002 11:54 pm

Damn, the backup server is slow as hell.... :x

How much kps you guys getting off it? I'm getting 25kps...
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Postby TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Thu Jul 11, 2002 7:32 am

jbone wrote:The people who make the best videos are driven by inspiration and imagination.

The people who make the drek which just looks like everything else are driven by the perspiration of wanting to win awards. :-P


Though what you say may be true in some cases, I cant help but think you maybe generalizing a little too much. When I said before about how wanting to win makes people vids better I was reffereing to those that could see that in order to win, they would need to make something new and imaginative and not something seen before. There for, before just going and busting out a video, they might sit and think about what to do a little longer in order to come up with something truelly original that would stand out and win. Basically, its Economics 101, competition creates better quality for the consumer.

Once again im not saying any of you are wrong and I completely see your points, im just adding another side to the argument your looking over.
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Postby Scott A Melzer » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:26 am

Trolling:

I think it's bad because there are just SO many videos being sent to conventions. It's an extreme problem, with cons like Otakon receiving approximately 8 hours worth of videos. A good chunk of those are videos that were sent to several, maybe even a dozen cons. It's out of control. I think it's just basic courtesy to not try to flood the cons with one video.

Also, how will cons be different? If everyone sends their videos to all the cons, then you'll have twenty contests that are 10 hours and everything is the same. What's the point? I, and many people, go to lots of different conventions during the year. I really don't want to see the same thing that I've already seen when I go to a new contest, which is really getting to be what happens. Leave some room for the new guy, huh?

Damn, neo. Those run-on sentences are a real pain to read.
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Postby Scott A Melzer » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:30 am

D'oh!

I also meant to say that the video went over very well at PortConMaine, where it almost took first place. Everyone was very impressed with the work that went into it. I thought that some parts looked a bit still or jaggy, but overall it was a nice job. Very funny in parts, which is more important than the effects, right?

A convention like PortConMaine is a little different. As it was their first year, they were begging for submissions and would take practically anything, so you really can't fault him for entering!
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Postby Castor Troy » Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:07 pm

Thanks Scott, I'll probably be re-submitting to PortConMaine again next year as non-competing (Iserlohn got a non competing spot). Hopefully you guys get alot more videos :)
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