Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

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Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:20 pm

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I've been keeping my eyes peeled for a while for a situation like this to pop up, where we have a brand spankin' new user on-site (more or less), and they do something like post their first journal so that I know they are active. I'm doing this because I remember being that young, enthusiastic editor, and I remember how much it sucked being totally brushed off when I really just wanted to make friends here. This one has a lot of promise, and I would love to see her(?) welcomed - like I know we can - so that (s)he doesn't become the jaded, bitter member that half of us did. Since I know someone will purposely misinterpret this just to be an asshole, please note that I am not asking for the member to be praised up and down. The video in the review has flaws, but this is an exercise in constructive criticism.

Let's do this shit right, .org-ers.

For this video, I loved the flow. It fit the pop style of the music well by keeping the pace and energy high. I also enjoy how the manga images transition well between the game footage, by moving from one scene in one medium to the same scene in the other. Furthermore, even though the Sora/Kairi relationship is a big motivating factor in the games, it is weird how little footage actually exists for them. Therefore, making a coherent, full length video for them was an accomplishment in itself. At times, I feel like the lyric sync is very good (like with the dancing section, for example), but the majority of the video feels like a general montage. This works against the video on one hand, because it takes away from any driving story, but on the other hand, it lends to the dreamlike quality that the song is all about. The opening and ending transitions are quite cute, what with Namine seeming to tell the whole story in her sketches.

Possible improvements?

One, just bumping the resolution of the whole thing down a bit would help out the video quality. I don't think that any of the footage is actually natively at that scale.

Two, the color effect that sweeps over the whole video could be reduced just to the scenes using manga. The game footage is fine without it, but it does give some visual interest to the plain black and white and makes it blend more with the video as a whole.

Three, just like how subtitles in anime are distracting, I would suggest removing the text from the manga, too, except if there was a case when (s)he wanted to draw particular attention to a line or something.

Four, although the quick scene changes were good for the song style, combining that with lots of manga overlays and the color effects made for a jumble of scenes at times. It's tough to follow when three things are going on onscreen at the same time, and tougher yet when they all overlap.

Five, just on a technical note, 132 MB for a three-and-a-half minute video is overkilling it a little. Bringing down the resolution would help this, of course. (S)he has it in a good format, but I'm wondering if there are other methods (s)he can employ here.

Overall, I found this to be very cute and fun. I appreciated the use of the manga with the games, since it brings uniqueness to a series of games that are flooded by carbon copy AMVs/VGMVs. |:>


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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:03 pm

I agree with most of the things you said... however this review doesn't come off as a review, but more like feedback that the editor could actually use.

For me it felt like there was a too much going on, and I couldn't really focus on anything that was being shown, so it came across as a jumble of images and therefore lacked emotional connection to the song. Some parts worked out and others didn't..

I agree with the text being in the video, which includes the Japanese text... I found it distracting when I noticed both English and Japanese in the text bubbles... then it turned into a game "which language is this image in?"

Also this video a huge offender of one of my biggest pet peeves: the gigantic watermark of dewm. So most of the video instead of watching I ended up looking at "NAMINEPANDA" for most of the video (or had to focus on trying to ignore it). I guess this is the generation of "commercials during the show" so watermarks don't bother them.

Also you are right, the video was upscaled. I think sizing it to the proper resolution would have saved the editor the file space to be able to host it locally.

I think the hardest part of this video for me was actually the music. I like very few Disney pop songs (especially pop versions of songs from their animated features). But this is my own personal bias..

I do appreciate that it is quite different from most KH videos I've seen, so many of them stick to the "pretty footage" of the opening and closings and trailers, so it was nice to see the in game cut scenes in there as well. The manga was a nice touch too.
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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby naminepanda » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43 pm

Hi hi! Thanks for the feedbacks! I could actually use them since I am still learning on how to make AMVs! Since this AMV is my first cross-over of Manga Music Video and Anime Music Video, I have started using photoshop to edit the Manga scans so I can use them for my future AMVs! Also, I used to like some Disney pop songs, so at the moment I am moving on to using some modern pop/j-pop music! Again, thanks guys! :D

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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:50 am

JaddziaDax wrote:I agree with most of the things you said... however this review doesn't come off as a review, but more like feedback that the editor could actually use.


There's a difference? (I don't mean this in a snarky way. Seriously, I don't understand how a review is any different. In either case, I'm addressing positive and negative aspects of the video.)
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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby JaddziaDax » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:59 am

A review is more for other people, to share your thoughts an opinions to a wider audience, and feedback is for the creator or the art. At least that's how I see it :P The comments made seemed more that they should be directed to the editor rather than an audience.

naminepanda wrote:Also, I used to like some Disney pop songs, so at the moment I am moving on to using some modern pop/j-pop music! Again, thanks guys! :D


Don't stress about music choice, use what music you like, there will always be someone out there who isn't into the same things you are... and you show a lot of potential, so please keep up editing and keep learning O:
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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby naminepanda » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:48 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:A review is more for other people, to share your thoughts an opinions to a wider audience, and feedback is for the creator or the art. At least that's how I see it :P The comments made seemed more that they should be directed to the editor rather than an audience.

naminepanda wrote:Also, I used to like some Disney pop songs, so at the moment I am moving on to using some modern pop/j-pop music! Again, thanks guys! :D


Don't stress about music choice, use what music you like, there will always be someone out there who isn't into the same things you are... and you show a lot of potential, so please keep up editing and keep learning O:


Thank you so much! I'll be sure to keep on editing videos and learn as much as possible! :)
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Re: Review - naminepanda - Once Upon A Dream ~ Sora & Kairi

Postby godix » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:27 pm

I dunno. The video has good point and bad points. I should note, I watched the tube version instead of the downloaded one.

Some of the switching between anime and manga worked really really well. You know how in movies sometimes the camera will be zooming around, then it pauses on something and slowly pans across it for a moment to emphasis the importance of that object? Because of how well matched some of the anime & manga were, it gave me that feeling. It didn't feel like a cut to a different source, rather it felt like a pan within the same source. Obviously I can tell which is the manga and which is the game footage, but on just watching it, the difference wasn't really major. Then the god damned text from the manga would pan on screen, slap me in the face while yelling 'static image source!', and totally destroy that feeling. So I agree with twotabs about the manga text being a problem. It wasn't because I felt the urge to read it or anything, just that by being there it broke the flow. For similar reasons, I would have liked to see the panel borders on the manga removed to.

I disagree with whoever said the color effect shouldn't have been there all time. I think the color effect should have been toned down in general, but it was a good thing it was there all the time. It provided a unifying element to the video with helps the mind view everything as being similar and related to each other. Which is a large part of why transitioning from 3d animation to manga drawings wasn't as jarring as it could have been. Despite the huge difference in style, that effect helped unify them.

The watermark is really annoying. I know people are concerned about their video ripped off, but honestly, the watermark is an annoyance for almost everyone viewing the video. So I suppose it does discourage theft. Not because it identifies the video as hers, but because it makes the video look bad enough that no one thinks it's worth 'stealing'.

Overall, I just don't like the romance dreamy style of video, so I don't like this. I kinda doubt I'd like it even if I did enjoy the style. But it does have potential. With more work, I could see something like this being really good.
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