Am I a Jerk? [in regards to yaoi]

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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:43 pm

D-Reaper wrote:
Lyrs wrote:Well, Gundamn Wing is yoai and people watch it. :D

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I wish it was! :cry: How do you figure GW is yaoi?
Well it is, and it isn't...

(Here I go again)

You see...basically, the creator of Wing (in the third biggest mistake in the legacy of Gundam*) felt that, since he was unable to convincingly depict romantic relationships for the characters, and, since the yaoi/hetero crowds were both drawing to it, the guy felt it would be a smart move to leave their sexualities neutral. That's right, he decided he didn't want to give them sexualities and let the audiences make their decisions as they see fit. (Truth be told, I think it was a pretty cheap move from a lazy director, but that's just me.)
So in a way, if you want to interpret it as yaoi, there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
(Personally, I don't see them as gay...but then again, yaoi's never been my cup of joe, so that's just personal opinion)
(That's the one thing I never liked about Wing...the creator leaves WAY too many elements up to interpretation....in the long run, EoE was a more comprehendible view than Wing)...but I digress from my rambling

* -- Since I mentioned that as the third biggest, the other two biggies
2. Creation of the movie 'Gundam 0083: Last Blitz of Zeon' -- (A 13-episode OVA does not survive well at all as a 2-hour compilation movie)
1. The creation of G-Saviour (Gotta hand it to them...when you even get Sunrise working to have it struck from the UC history, you've struck on something new)

Here endeth the ramblings...
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:09 pm

That's an odd statement coming from somebody with a "hentai" screenname. You don't keep your "little sexual secrets" very secret, now do you? :P

Anyway, wtf? I never said anything about giving you long, detailed descriptions of their fantasies. Calm the fuck down. Most people just want to know you aren't going to freak out on them or run around screaming telling everyone you know that they're some kind of pervert. How about "I don't like it, but watch what you want," is that so hard? Your precious fragile masculinity is not going to be hurt by that, boys. Jesus.

And I didn't say anything about shoving it down your throat, either (Freudian image! nice) - I specifically said that people on either side of the fence who try and force their opinions on others are asses. Just as your calling them "freakish sexual secrets" is being an ass, so is anyone who won't give up once you say "no thanks."

TRNHM, I have no clue where you're going off on your little tirade about secrets and fantasies and gay people and all that stuff, and frankly I don't want to know about your issues - but FOR GODS SAKES IT'S SPELLED "YAOI." How would you like it if I called you "hetnai" constantly? ;)

Just trying to lighten the mood. This isn't about your issues, Hetnai, so please, stick to the subject.

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Post by TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:38 pm

umm...like....yeah...pot.kettle.black...I wasnt even talking to you, I was reffering to the post that started this whole thread with this guys friends freaking out on him cause he didnt like YAOI and other people ive seen pull similar shit. See...this is that same vanity thing I was talking about before...you think im attacking YOU...everything is about YOU...time to get over yourself ok.

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Post by Alugarde » Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:43 pm

UncleMilo wrote:BRAVO!

ChOjIn, that was a great post!
I second that.
TheRealNeoHentaiMaster wrote:Theres just some shit you dont talk about it. You dont have to feel ashamed or whatever about it, you just talk about it. I mean, everyone jerks off right? its completely normal and pretty much everyone knows it, but no one talks about it either.
That's not entirely true, I've had a conversation or two about masturbation. I don't think theres anything that you "just don't talk about", just things that are more commonly spoken of than others.

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Post by SarahtheBoring » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:16 am

TheRealNeoHentaiMaster wrote:umm...like....yeah...pot.kettle.black...
...huh? Do you know what that means?
I wasnt even talking to you, I was reffering to the post that started this whole thread with this guys friends freaking out on him cause he didnt like YAOI and other people ive seen pull similar shit.
Yes, and that's what I replied to. See, you can have these things called "discussions!" Isn't that neat?
See...this is that same vanity thing I was talking about before...
...vanity?
you think im attacking YOU...everything is about YOU...time to get over yourself ok.
Attacking me? About me? Dude, I have no clue where you're getting this. I don't even KNOW you. I was replying to a post on a message board.

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Post by EarthCurrent » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:24 am

I'm ordering my multitude of orbiting defense platforms to blow this thread up with their LASER BEAMS OF DEATH.

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Post by Lyrs » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:31 am

Why not just tell the MODs? :D

It doesn't waste your funds, which you could use to conquer the world.

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Post by EarthCurrent » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:33 am

This is just a random act of destruction.
Power mad egotists like myself are prone to them.

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Post by SarahtheBoring » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:45 am

Ah, whatever. God forbid someone should argue the opposite point of view from you, that might actually require you to open your minds a little tiny bit. ;)

Anyway, if you're grievously offended by opposing POVs, phew. Now I know why I usually avoid this forum.

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Post by skanks » Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:45 am

I know AzuManga Dioah isn't Yuri, I said 'Closest thing' meaning not quite although that girl was harbouring some pretty disturbing ideas for someone her age.

And I know Kawou wasn't really gay but I had a fun time convincing my friend who idolizes and Shinji up until the point of which he identifies himself as a Shinji preincarnaite type of thing. (I know some pretty weird peoples)

It amused me to convince him him Shinji was gay. However soon after my friend 'came out the closet himself' (I've always pondered if I had a part in that)

As for Homophobics, the shorter the town the more the homophobic. OH, and trust me mate, talking about private business (ie your own sexual gratification) should remain private. A mate of mine decided its good to talk about that sort of thing and was labels as a homosexual and before long had a range of being beating on him.
He's a small bloke, I was the one that had to do all the fighting...
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