So-called unethical reviews: are YOU guilty?

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Post by CaTaClYsM » Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:11 am

I wouldn't review my own vids and I'm glad I would never have to. I make them so every little flaw sticks out like a sore thumb. If there is any work I criticize most harshly, it's my own.

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Post by godix » Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:00 am

I don't know about other self reviewers but is <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 1">this</a> considered unethical?
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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:31 am

godix wrote:I don't know about other self reviewers but is <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 1">this</a> considered unethical?
I don't believe that sort of self-review is unethical at all - especially if it was done for the 'underrated' category. If Phade wants people to review themselves, I think an honest (and harsh) review given at least a month after the vid was made is the sort of review you should give.

I've *definitely* been tempted to flame some of my videos and make those flames public in hopes that no one will bother to download the vids. I may have given high scores when I made them (and thought they were great), but now that I look back I do see every single nasty little problem - and sadly, I know I could remake the video in half the time it took to make the original - with 1% of the flaws. Hindsight is a horrid thing sometimes, but if it leads you to properly warning people by giving your own review to something (especially a flame that in no way picks at the precious top scales) I don't think anyone would complain about it.

It's just sad that you have to do that rather than deleting or remaking the video. :?

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Post by ErMaC » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:01 pm

That's why I've only uploaded videos to the Donut that I want people to see :P Easy way to take your videos offline it to remove links to them that go to external sources.

Back a long long time ago when the site was still really young, I left a few reviews on my own videos. My really early ones all have self-reviews on them. I stopped doing it, because I just end up repeating mostly the stuff that's in the video description, and giving myself marks that everyone else was giving, so I said forget it, not worth my time and possible ridicule.

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Post by koronoru » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:18 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:[I don't believe that sort of self-review is unethical at all - especially if it was done for the 'underrated' category.
Why does the "underrated" category require one opinion for a video to be listed? That seems calculated to encourage people to self-review.

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Post by ProphetDK » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:24 pm

Reviewing one's own videos... Uhmm hard to do I think. I dont do it and its not fair to the video. Either you're too lenient because it is yours or your too harsh. ::shrug::

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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:24 pm

koronoru wrote:
Arigatomyna wrote:[I don't believe that sort of self-review is unethical at all - especially if it was done for the 'underrated' category.
Why does the "underrated" category require one opinion for a video to be listed? That seems calculated to encourage people to self-review.
It could prevent bad links from being included back when it wasn't 'local-only' - a bad upload probably wouldn't get any reviews no matter how many downloads it got - but it shouldn't be counted since no one could watch it in the first place.

But really - if it's set up to divide by the number of reviews...can't divide by 0. :?

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Post by koronoru » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:43 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
koronoru wrote:But really - if it's set up to divide by the number of reviews...can't divide by 0. :?
Well, it can't get a meaningful ratio out of that, but all it needs is a ranking. It could rank all the videos with no reviews ahead of those with any reviews, and rank those with more downloads ahead of those with fewer downloads, within the no-review section. Another common trick for such things would be to count all the vids with no reviews as having (say) one-tenth of one review for the purposes of the calculation.

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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:25 pm

koronoru wrote:Well, it can't get a meaningful ratio out of that, but all it needs is a ranking. It could rank all the videos with no reviews ahead of those with any reviews, and rank those with more downloads ahead of those with fewer downloads, within the no-review section. Another common trick for such things would be to count all the vids with no reviews as having (say) one-tenth of one review for the purposes of the calculation.
I don't know if this has been suggested yet, but it's a nice idea - dividing by a tiny fraction in the absence of a real review. Might try the 'Suggestions' section if you really want it. ^.~

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Post by Leanan » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:14 pm

I don't like the idea of giving yourself opinions because I don't really see how it helps. You put your video out there for others to see not to tell yourself what you already know. I think anything that needs to be said could easily go in the videos description. If it's to get on the most underrated list or whatnot, I don't like that either because it's so easy to do an opinion exchange with someone in the exchange forum (to at least get one opinion).

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