music style info missing

[vume5]

The point is that the quote from the topic creator implies that if he/she doesn't like the song, then the video will receive a low score from him/her regardless of whether or not the video matched the song or not. Rating an AMV on song alone (or 2/3 on song, in this case) is ignorant and narrow-minded. Objectivity (which you brought up) is looking at the video as a whole.

I don't consider myself qualified to rate a vid on its artistic value, nor did I know that I'm supposed to. I thought the stars rating is supposed to say how much you liked it, and to me, in a music vid, the music's far more important than the vid.
Of course I realize that this unfair to the amv creator; that's one of the reasons I'm asking for music style info. How about a 15sec preview/prelisten version of about 300KB?
Or a list of the main instruments and a voice description (male, hoarse, deep, screaming, approx. age....)

If I don't like a song I'll just turn down the volume and watch the video.

Just what I'm doing if the video footage is great. Mute it.

[godix]

How about a 15sec preview/prelisten version of about 300KB?
Or a list of the main instruments and a voice description (male, hoarse, deep, screaming, approx. age....)

How about you just quit being a moron and learn about music instead? 90% of what goes on the org are pretty well known artists. Honestly, are you so godawful braindead that you really need to be told what type of music linkin park is?

I find the request for 300kb music rather amusing considering most vids are probably made from 128 mp3s. Besides, I suspect the RIAA wouldn't take kindly to music streaming even if it is just samples.

[Oli.C]

Hi,
why is there no indication of the music style on the video info site?
Band/song name almost never tells me anything.
And the music comprises about 2/3 of my rating...

deary me...

[vume5]

90% of what goes on the org are pretty well known artists. Honestly, are you so godawful braindead that you really need to be told what type of music linkin park is?

? Tz. Just because you and your peers know L.Park you consider those who don't as braindead?
I've heard the name and probably his music as well, but I don't know that it's his.

I find the request for 300kb music rather amusing considering most vids are probably made from 128 mp3s. .

300KB total file size! Encoded with ogg or aac at 32Kb=4KB . My, who's being a moron here?

Besides, I suspect the RIAA wouldn't take kindly to music streaming even if it is just samples

But it doesn't mind hosting of complete songs if they are accompanied by vids?

[BasharOfTheAges]

Besides, I suspect the RIAA wouldn't take kindly to music streaming even if it is just samples

But it doesn't mind hosting of complete songs if they are accompanied by vids?

Because "parody" or "derivative work" can be claimed in one case and not in the other.

[Emotive]

If what you want to do is rate music, you're apparently on the wrong site. I'd suggest you go looking for music you like somewhere else and download videos based on your music preferences rather than downloading videos at random and rating someone's hard work just based on the music they used, resulting in higher ratings for videos thrown together quickly and randomly just because you "liked the music more". The creator of the video didn't make the music, and you are rating the video here, not the music artist.

[hasteroth]

90% of what goes on the org are pretty well known artists. Honestly, are you so godawful braindead that you really need to be told what type of music linkin park is?

? Tz. Just because you and your peers know L.Park you consider those who don't as braindead?

What kind of music is Linkin Park anyways? I honestly have know clue.

[JaddziaDax]

While I do believe that music choice does account for PART of my enjoyment of a video and can sometimes effect my ratings, I believe that Cast to Stone pointed out why so many here might have a problem with rating an amv based mostly on the music.

With very few exceptions: "The creator of the video didn't make the music", most of their hard work (or not so hard work) is put into editing the video part of the production and I think that they would rather people rate their videos based on how well their editing worked/didn't work than what sources they used.

However that has also not stopped people from rating a video based solely on anime CHOICE either.

How many times have we heard people complain about "my favorite anime + my favorite song = 5 stars even if the editing and presentation are terrible, they used my favorite things so its awesome" mentality or that "Con Audiences vote biased and unjust because a video had a popular source".

We all know this sort of thing happens, this guy just happens to have the balls that he admits he does it. (Or he just didn't realize how much it would piss people off.)

That being said: if he doesn't want to change his ways, he can either continue to "rate low" just because its a song he hates, or he could research the music before downloading (using google, because this site isn't exactly a "music database", it's an amv database), or stop downloading amvs with songs/artists he doesn't know.

[godix]

? Tz. Just because you and your peers know L.Park you consider those who don't as braindead?
I've heard the name and probably his music as well, but I don't know that it's his.

It's not like linkin park is an obscure band. Not knowing who they are just means you don't know fuck about music. If you care about the music then learn about it. If you don't care enough to even know one of the most popular bands in the last decade why should we give a fuck enough to label stuff for you?

300KB total file size! Encoded with ogg or aac at 32Kb=4KB . My, who's being a moron here?

So if I compressed an entire 15 song CD into 300KB you'd be happy with the quality? Uh, ok.

Besides, I suspect the RIAA wouldn't take kindly to music streaming even if it is just samples

But it doesn't mind hosting of complete songs if they are accompanied by vids?

So far, no. And we'd like to keep it that way. Just because the tiger hasn't gnawed our face off yet doesn't mean we should go poke it in the eye.

[badmartialarts]

This went off on a tangent, so I'll try to address the initial concern.

The problem as I see it to including a 'genre' with the music listing is that it won't help anyone. One of my favorite bands (and I need to do another video to their music) is Man or Astro-Man? They are technically a surf rock band. But does me telling you they are a surf rock band give you any information about their music at all? The Beach Boys were a surf rock band too...the only similarities is in the way the guitars are played. Other than that, Man or Astro-Man? take surf rock guitar style and add electronic effects, samples from 50s sci-fi and spy shows, theremins, and other weirdness and produce some really crazy instrumental music. So should I call them 'experimental rock'? Would that be more useful or less? And if you weren't allowed to be that specific, I'd probably have to just call them 'rock' just like Metallica, Nightwish, Cannibal Corpse, Buddy Holly, and Nirvana, to pick some random bands that are all technically rock but are about as different from each other as I can think of.

The other issue is administrative. I am not a part of the site's administration, but I know what a pain it would be to have someone watch a video to a 311 song that was classed as reggae by the creator, and then complaining that it's actually a ska band. Does someone have to watch to make sure people categorize correctly? And who watches the watchers? :O

Just my take on it.