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Post by Kalium » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:37 pm

Then it's all about perspective.

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Post by Tsunami Jones » Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:38 pm

Kalium wrote:Then it's all about perspective.
Yup. But that doesn't mean that the viewpoints of others aren't worth discussing :o

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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:08 pm

some people consider porn to be an art...

and some people consider art to be porn...

O.o

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Post by godix » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:29 pm

Tsunami Jones wrote:
godix wrote:I didn't say everything was art. I said anything that is done for more than strictly utilitarian purposes is art.
Fair enough, but according to that, wouldn't that make all forms of entertainment art as well, regardless of what they are?
Yes. And?

Many consider Citizen Kane art but the difference between it and Dude, Where's My Car is just a matter of quality, there's no element that makes the former art and the latter not. Similarly Roots is often considered art and there's no defining characteristic to separate it from The Brady Bunch. Beethoven and N'Sync are the same thing, just ones better than the other. Omar Khayyam or Kipling are no more artistic than harlequin romances.

Humanity is a very artistic species although except for a few notable exceptions we're also very bad at it.
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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:50 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:some people consider porn to be an art...
Porn is such an ugly word. Erotica. Now that's artistic. 8-)

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Post by Willen » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:39 am

Arigatomina wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:some people consider porn to be an art...
Porn is such an ugly word. Erotica. Now that's artistic. 8-)
It's still porn. Like how caviar is still fish eggs. :|
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Post by Tsunami Jones » Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:45 am

godix wrote:Many consider Citizen Kane art but the difference between it and Dude, Where's My Car is just a matter of quality, there's no element that makes the former art and the latter not.
IMO, thematic elements would seperate them.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:01 pm

If it's all about perspective, the creator's power to BS meaning into something (s)he created is pretty much all it comes down to and it only takes a single delusional individual to dub something art for it to be so. Artists don't like that because it makes them feel worthless.
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Post by Serv0 » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:49 pm

Let me remind everyone that the purpose of this thread is to influence editors in the production of future products.
If you would like to know what Aesthetics is then feel free to catch up on your studying.
If you could define me what art is after studying Aesthetics, than by all means tell me how. Because I surely can't.

Personally:

"My job is not to cry, my job is to make you cry." -Nicholas Meyer.

A lot of people define art as self-expression.
Today, I never make anything to express myself. Self-expression personally only has one audience, and that's the expressionist.

Instead I make something to not gain an expression from myself, but to gain an expression from my audience. I would rather see the criticisms of godix, Orwell, Crackerz, and all other AMVers, instead of the opinions of my own ego. This is what I think art is. Something that conveys an emotional response from the audience.

Learn from Darwin, when he uses the image of bread in a stripe of soup to convey a reaction of disgust. Neither the bread or soup alone is disgusting, but when their powers combine, the result is of course the horrific "CAPTAIN PLANET!"
godix wrote:A 3 year olds scribblings are art. Drawing stuff in the snow with your pee is art. Shaping your mashed potatoes into the grand canyon is art. AMVs are art. None of these are GOOD art but they're all art.
So true. So true.
Just because it's art, doesn't mean it's good.
Except, I'll have to clarify godix, that there are a lot of AMVs that are good. Sorry if I'm re-clarifying if you've already corrected this before.

All n' all:

"If you like movies, then you must like people. Because that's what movies are about is people." -Martin Scorsese.

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Post by JaddziaDax » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:27 am

Arigatomina wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:some people consider porn to be an art...
Porn is such an ugly word. Erotica. Now that's artistic. 8-)
Erotica is the word my dad uses for porn as well O:

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