people that hate the dragonball seires

[Arigatomina]

Some of you need to stop trying to state what something is, instead state what you think it is and stop generalizing everything.

You shouldn't be so defensive. Anyone who could honestly believe DBZ is 'emotionless' could think the same of any anime - whether it's Grave of the Fireflies or La Blue Girl. After all, whether or not a viewer actually *recognizes* the emotions of a character depends on the viewer himself. Some people are too superficial to see deeper than flashes on a screen. That's just the way they are and it doesn't reflect on the anime in the least - it's all about the person and his ability to know that 'crying characters are feeling an emotion - sadness,' and that 'yelling characters are feeling an emotion - anger'.

Things like that...a person either sees it or doesn't. And when a person doesn't, oh well. That doesn't change the fact that the majority of humans recognize the signs of emotion, whether one specific viewer did or not. Heh, it would be like someone saying Rurouni Kenshin is 'emotionless action' just because it has a lot of kick-ass fight scenes in it. If you can't see past the glitter, then it's just too bad. You'll never be a good judge of anything if you base opinions on superficial observations.

"DBZ has action, it must all be action. And it's long, so it must be emotionless boring action. Naruto is long with action, it must be the same."

Making a general statement garnered by ignoring the facts of an anime doesn't make the viewer smart or 'trendy' - even if he does go with the flow. At best, it marks him as someone who is outside of the 'average' audience - someone who doesn't connect visuals with emotions well enough to match tears with sad, intensity of screams with the intensity of emotion felt by the characters, or the usual seemingly simple things other humans take for granted.

[Voices_Of_Ryan]

Shorter form of Ari's post:

"it's what you make of it."

[Bote]

DBZ is about friendships and family bonds. Whoever says it's "pointless action" either has an IQ of 0.0001 or has never watched the whole series nor tried to understand it.

The 3 series DB lasted 12 years (1986-1998). I mean, do you guys know what level of popularity that is? Akira Toriyama used to get 1000's of letters that demanded continuement. The actual DB serie was supposed to end with the Frieza saga and be the ending of DB (that's the way it is in the manga. Frieza saga is under "Dragon Ball" not "Dragon Ball Z"). However, due to unbelievably huge ammount of fans demanding continuement it became longer. It was meant to end with the destruction of Perfect Cell, but again millions of fans demanded more. Thereein came the movies and even more popularity. You all know that it even spread to DBGT and it was still successful, but in a way disapointing too (for me).

From the year it started to air in other parts of the world (1998-When GT ended in Japan) DB series have earned 1.4 billion dollars! Something that "sux" or "blows" cannot possibly earn so much. If it were crap then it wouldn't have been the most popular anime in the world. It stayed like that for almost 20 goddamn years, so it must have some qualities. You think there are better shows? There are better shows of course, which are mainly your own personal taste. I get bonded to many shows, like GTO and Berserk, and I now think they are better than DBZ. Things change I guess.

Hating the show cause it's a popular material for AMV's is very low and stupid. No matter how many crappy AMV's you see that use DBZ you shouldn't take it all out on the show. Blame the creator mainly, then blame the sites that host crappy quality clips as an AMV material. You cannot blame the actual show cause it has good footage.

Speaking of footage...DBZ has over 250 eps. , 13 movies and 2 specials. Hmm, so there are almost 5000 videos, eh? That is like a very disturbing fact . But you know what's more disturbing? The fact that 25 ep. shows have 1500 videos.

DBZ- 4743:250=18.9
NGE- 1709:26=65.7----OMG
Bebop- 1608:26=61.8--- :O

So, mathematically looking DBZ has a k=18.9 and NGE k=65.7. Would you look at that?

EoE- 970:4= 242.5 We have zee winner! Seems like DBZ is not "overused" after all. On the other hand, EoE has a bunch of kickass well-known AMV's while, when it's up to DBZ, people remember or mention only 3-4 titles, but there are much more good ones fer sure.

Watch the whole show, thoroughly, all of it and then, only then, you can bitch all you want about it. At least you'll have some material to bitch about and not look like a retard that makes statements without anything to back it up with.

i can't understand why the world just dosn't blow up while there powering up

Planet Namek was 3 times smaller than Earth, had an instabile structure and was on a brinch of collapsing even before the fights with Frieza (one of the Namekian elders said that). It's structure was easier to break through than Earth's. Powering up? While powering up the warriors don't give out all their energy. Blowing up Earth while powering up? That doesn't make any sence.

Alos i can't understand when they just don't use there SUPER attacks at the start of the fight

And why didn't Alucard use his Level 3 technique in the beggining of Hellsing and not the end? Ever thought about something called "building up the atmosphere"?

It's senseless action

Watch the show more closely. Notice how Piccolo cares about the son of his worst rival. Notice how Vegeta openly shows his devotion to his wife and children. Notice how the people are in despair and are terrified during the attacks of the villains. Notice how Muten-Roshi is sooo perverted that you cannot stop laughing. Notice how Goku can sometimes be funny as hell (even though he is a bit stupid lol).

So, that's "senseless action"?

It drags on and on and the plotlines in the series is practically the same. For that same reason i dislike Naruto (but not as much as DBZ, Naruto as a bit more fun in it, but still it mostly sucks).

OMG, can I say completely self-pawned? Ever bothered watching Naruto beyond ep. 20? How can you people say it's "the same as DBZ"? It's completely different and completely fresh and I luv it so far (ep. 33). I might end up liking it even more if it continues like this .

While I've never actually watched the series, I hate that its fans tend to be the most ignorant in anime fandom, and the ones who think that DBZ is the greatest anime in the world have never seen any other shows. See 'Right Now...' for reference.

With that I agree. Since DBZ has the most hardcore fans it's no wonder that there are so many conflicts DBZ related. I used to think DBZ is the best before watching some other shows too. Depends upon a person.

[Voices_Of_Ryan]

Know what I think? I think any topic like this that doesnt get locked in 2 replies has gone on much too long.

We all know why people hate dbz, we know why they love it, it's become a fad now for both sides to say "it sucks" or "it's the best" it's some kind of epidemic, and it's freakin' me out.

Personaly, lets bring back the pokemon sucks category, it's less used.

[particle-woman]

My brother used to watch that show all the time. I despised it. For a bit, I thought all anime was stupid like that. So, here I am about 3 years later and I taken a liking to stuff I've heard some of my friends talk about (Cowboy Bebop, Inu Yasha, Rurouni Kenshin, Trigun).
But I HATE dbz. Any kind of DB series. ggrrrrr.

[notchrisbeck]

The manga is much better if you get a chance to read it. They have it monthly in Shonen Jump, and graphic novel form for like $7.

[Pyle]

I dislike the fans much more then the anime. They keep talking about how it's the best anime in the world, when they haven't even seen any other kind except the ones on cartoon network and KDB.

Count how many users on the Internet have SSJ in their username and tell me I'm wrong -_-.

Specifically, the reason I dislike the series is because it's just the same thing over and over again. I watched 3 eps in a row at my buddy's house. I liked the fight scene between Vegeta and Goku, but I was ready to move on to the story.

Watched another ep. Vegeta and Goku are still flying through the air, punching and slapping and whamming the crap out of each other.

Watched a 3rd ep. Vegeta and Goku, still at it.

Plot is basically - Villain arises
The guys train up
Goku comes and saves the day
Rinse and repeat
I desire anime's that have a sense of fullfillness in them, aka. Escaflowne. They had fight's and wars in that anime, but it was all for a reason, and each fight and a story behind it.

[Pyle]

'I see the topic is about Dragonball and not DBZ, so I'll post about that too.

The reason I dislike Dragonball is because it's so damnded STUPID! You see a little goku who sounds like a rabbit on crack, oh and he has a tail. He's pretty indestructible too.

Anyways, onto the ep I saw. He's chasing some guy around and corners him in a house. He pulls at seven ninja stars, hurling them each one at a time. The man pulls a mat off the floor and block's each ninja start with one mat.

The seventh star nails him in the forehead. He starts wailing and screaming about how the designer promised him seven mats and not six. He turns around and runs out the door, Goku hot on his heels.

=_=. I thought anime was supposed to be different from american cartoons.

[supersarah6]

I use to be a big fan of DBZ, but thats when I was younger and was easily entertained by repetitious fight scenes, and confusing story lines. I just grew out of it quick, but it is still the first anime I have ever watched and liked.

[dogger]

i used to be a fan but i got over it
what i dont get is that DBZ never dies, theres always someone who keeps bring it up agin and agin.
so i have an idear if you dislike DBZ stop talking about it then (hopfuly) it will die.