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This week's video:
Link: Nunchuck - 2007 - The Letter
Editor: (Nunchuck)
Category: Romance
Anime: 5 Centimeters Per Second
Song: Box Tops - The Letter
To participate:
Please download the video, write an opinion for it, then continue the discussion here. If you just feel like contributing without reading the IRC log that's OK.
IRC Log of discussion (see first reply for Quadir's Highlights):
Participants: godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), inthesto (Alex Ying), Kionon, quadir (Olivier Beaton), shumira_chan, szwagier (Paul Gaska), Teya
Bonus Video:Edited IRC Log wrote:18:59 -!- szwagier has joined #amv-review
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20:29 <quadir> we're dropping the link early per suggestions
20:30 <szwagier> gieef us teh sacrifice so we may proceed with teh ritual of opinionating :O
20:31 <teya> lol
20:31 * quadir recovers and stops laughings.
20:32 <G_Q-Editing> rofl
20:33 * szwagier tries to resemble zombie crowd yelling *saaaaacriiiiffiiiicceee*
20:33 * G_Q-Editing hands szwagier the reliquary with Phade's pinky finger bone.
20:33 <G_Q-Editing> At least, that's what I was told. >_>
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20:36 <godix> So what piece of crap you gonna drop on us tonight?
20:37 <quadir> now now
20:37 <quadir> k gona drop the link now
20:37 <quadir> Video: (Nunchuck) - 2007 - The Letter
20:37 <quadir> Link: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=140988
20:37 <quadir> Editor: Nunchuck
20:37 <quadir> Category: Romance
20:37 <quadir> Anime: 5 Centimeters Per Second
20:37 <quadir> Song: Box Tops - The Letter
20:37 <quadir> Video Link in the topic, please watch and op it (remember to save text in notepad before submitting) before joining the discussion here
20:38 <godix> Hey, this has an op AND more than 50 hits. WTF you pulling here?
20:38 <quadir> we'll be starting the discussion around 9:15, so you have time to watch + op it, and please do, it's half the point :)
20:39 <quadir> you can just write yours in notepad godix :)
20:39 <szwagier> godix have his sausage ability back, so he can burn the vid all he want :P
20:39 <godix> Actually I have op abilities again. Which, thanks to dokidoki's remarkable sense of timing, means I owe about a dozen ops I originally had no intention of doing.
20:40 <quadir> oh, I thought you only had it back for 1 day, my bad
20:40 <godix> I was kinda hoping. It'd have given an excuse to blow off doing ops.
20:40 <szwagier> lol interestying filename xD 4.avi.avi :O
20:40 <teya> aww
20:41 <teya> are there spoilers?
20:41 <quadir> no
20:41 <godix> doesn't look like it.
20:41 <quadir> I would of marked for spoilers above
20:41 <godix> then again, I don't know the series so maybe
20:42 <godix> SPOILER: They just sit on a train doing nothing.
20:42 <quadir> just write your op in peace godix :)
20:43 <quadir> there will be plenty of time to praise the sitting on trains around 9-9:15 :)
20:43 <godix> quadir: For future reference, could you find videos that do NOT say 'don't be too mean in your opinion'? I find that limits me somewhat.
20:43 <quadir> do what you want
20:43 <quadir> I didn't even read the vid description
20:44 <quadir> the guy has talent so it's not like you're going to make him stop editing
20:44 <quadir> and he made an announcement thread in the FORUMS
20:51 * G_Q-Editing watches.
21:00 <G_Q-Editing> Op'd
21:00 <teya> ditto
21:00 <G_Q-Editing> I though it was good as it was.
21:01 <G_Q-Editing> Some minor weak points, like the capture quality.
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21:02 <G_Q-Editing> But I like this kind of video, so overall, I liked it.
21:02 <quadir> but we can wait for Godix' op
21:07 <godix> There. I'm done. And I was even serious about the op which is quite rare for me.
21:09 <quadir> I see godix and szwagier have their ops in :)
21:10 <teya> and me
21:10 <szwagier> I didn't like it. Effects that were pointless killed the flow imho, and nothing happening bored me :[
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21:16 <quadir> if you're not done your op yet, just finish up and join in the conversation when you're done
21:16 <godix> Ok then, I got a question, has anyone ever seen worse lipsync than the little that was in this video?
21:16 <quadir> It definatly should of been N/A, which is what I put
21:17 <quadir> what time index you seeing the attempt?
21:17 <szwagier> there was a lipsync quadir, but it was bad
21:17 <szwagier> 00:21
21:17 <godix> around 20 seconds
21:17 <teya> yeah there was an attempt
21:17 <quadir> oh shit I didn't even notice that
21:17 <quadir> yeah that's pretty sad
21:17 <godix> If he didn't select lipsync as a category I honestly would have thought it was lipflap
21:18 <quadir> is it only at the beginning there?
21:19 <godix> think so. THat's the only bit I caught.
21:19 <quadir> little boy trying to sync to chain smoker voice O_O
21:19 <quadir> it's not a long video, only 2 minutes
21:19 <godix> Then again, I think the video put me to sleep around the 45 second mark so I have no idea what he did later than that point.
21:20 <quadir> godix: yeah despite the horns the song isn't really "upbeat" is it
21:20 <teya> i thought it was fun
21:20 <teya> not amazing, but fun
21:20 <godix> Yes but the song wasn't the problem, his scene selection was what made it so damned boring.
21:20 <quadir> godix: an editor who told a story for once!
21:20 <shumira_chan> Ir's a well-made AMV, I thought it was OK. Subdued, I guess. On the other hand there's really nothing else to it. It's simple and straightforward. I didn't feel the romance, but I suspect it's because the singer sounds like he has a hangover. A better interpretation would have gone a long way to make this more sentimental. I'd watch more of the editor's work, this AMV is not a hack job.
21:21 <szwagier> the song isn't really good for such romance as he choosed... maybe for something like Bepop, that would more suit the mood of the song it could work....
21:21 <godix> Man on train is not a story. A story would have let me know why he wants to meet her. Instead I just saw the amtrak ride that never ends.
21:21 <shumira_chan> There's hardly a story... I agree with godix (did I just say that?)
21:21 <quadir> godix: well it's a journey :) like a segment out of a movie
21:22 <quadir> godix: so what if the first 20 minutes isn't there
21:22 <quadir> godix: the song isn't really talkin
21:22 <godix> quadir: The thing is, this isn't a segment out of a movie. It's a music video. It SHOULD be self encapsulated to some degree.
21:22 <teya> he's on the train 'cause he got a letter
21:22 <teya> that's the story i got
21:22 <shumira_chan> He lost his baby
21:23 <godix> So what, she had an abortion?
21:23 <quadir> szwagier: I noticed the whole 'simplicity' thing too
21:23 <shumira_chan> That'd would have been more interesting...
21:23 <quadir> szwagier: I thought it really hit reviewability in the gut
21:23 <quadir> godix: I think it's a term of endearement
21:24 <shumira_chan> We need a sarcasm tag :)
21:24 <godix> My problem is that if it wasn't for the effects then there would be nothing to the video that didn't look like he grabbed two minutes in middle of the anime and slap it on the timeline.
21:24 <quadir> story seams to be 1) he get a letter from gf 2) she says she can't live without him 3) he gets on plane because a fast train isn't fast enough (errr wait?!?) 4) they reunite
21:24 <teya> it was pretty pictures to decent music. if i had a playlist of amv's, it'd go on it as background
21:25 <quadir> one of the thing I notice a lot of editor's doing is using transparencies to display a character in the foreground and a more solid/interesting background scene behind
21:25 <quadir> and I think it looks like total ass
21:25 <godix> What is this letter, why did she send it, why are they seperated to begin with, what does he hope will happen when he returns, how does it end? None of those are even addressed in the slightest. Instead it's two minutes of an Amtrak commercial.
21:25 <quadir> and is way too confusing to see much detail
21:25 <teya> yeah if trying to pay attention to it, it's impossible
21:25 <shumira_chan> Will the creator be joining us?
21:25 <szwagier> Well there is a story, but i's a bit too primitive to be entertainig :S
21:26 <quadir> shumira_chan: if he comes in
21:26 <teya> but if you think of it like a.. wmp visualization =D
21:26 <quadir> shumira_chan: otherwise he'll get the log and be able to respond in the forums like anyone else
21:26 <quadir> teya: ouch
21:26 <szwagier> godix: actually i think that effects drowned the video more. If he wouldn't use it, there wouldn't be so much train (cuz it was in the background a lot)
21:26 <quadir> shumira_chan: so I think the answer you're looking for is no
21:26 <teya> quadir: it's not really intended to be an insult
21:26 <godix> Euhporia is a winamp visualization. Narutos Technique Beat was a winamp visualization. This video was not a visualization.
21:27 <teya> it was so busy, it felt like one
21:27 <quadir> godix: the rest of the story is left to the imagination? like it is in the song?
21:27 <godix> I think he should have established the train then a slow fade to white and show flashbacks of them together, him leaving, or whatever backstory there is to this.
21:28 <quadir> like I was saying though I'm really digging the center box character shot with the different backgrounds around
21:28 <quadir> and the angled box worked out really well for ihm I think
21:28 <quadir> it's 200% better then transparencies
21:28 <godix> Eh, I don't really have a complaint on the effects. I've seen far more distracting effects than this. They had no point to being in the video but still it wasn't that bad.
21:28 <quadir> well they let you do 2 things at once
21:29 <quadir> he gets to show off the character's evolving/continuing emotions in the centre pane
21:29 <quadir> while the video physically continues in the background
21:29 <quadir> and for a train ride, that's kind of important
21:29 <godix> Except you only focus on one thing. And he seems to know that, he kept the center window as his focus mostly which is the right thing to do.
21:30 <godix> About the only comment on the boxes I have other than there was no point is that he should have faded the background a little to make it even less intrusive.
21:30 <teya> godix: nod, maybe i'm too easily distracted
21:30 <quadir> you still see the blur of stuff going by around the box like looking through the window while in a train
21:30 <szwagier> quadir: and that's why I am against effects in this - if he wouldn't use it he would need to choose - characters or train. (i hope he would choose characters) and that way you would feel less train in the vid
21:30 <teya> quadir: interesting.. hadn't thought of it that way
21:30 <quadir> godix: that's a pretty good idea
21:30 <godix> He did do a good job of keeping the background simple at least. No complex picture or tons of motion to draw the eye.
21:30 <quadir> godix: I wonder if it would end up looking more through-the-glass
21:31 <godix> The white beat thingie should definately have not been there at all. At least he didn't do a total 100% opaque to 100% transparent white beat.
21:31 <quadir> szwagier: hm, so less journey and more toil over the emotional state of the characters?
21:32 <quadir> I mean a letter is pretty one sided, it tells a simple message, then you act on it, but I guess you could zoom out to the other character waiting or something
21:32 <quadir> and being all emo wrist cutting and shit
21:32 <quadir> godix: yeah white beat definatly could of been taken out
21:32 <teya> godix: yeah i said that in my op
21:32 <godix> I also don't like how he just drops effects. I mean he has them going constantly for the first 40 seconds or so then just drops them and not a hint of them after that. WTF was the reason for that?
21:32 * G_Q-Editing agrees with godix in white beat.
21:32 <szwagier> quadir: exactly. The journey killed this vid, because I was thinking "when the freaking train stops at least god damn it"
21:33 <godix> Hell, the point where he droped them wasn't even special. No syncing to the music explanation here.
21:33 <quadir> szwagier: well to be fair he has a pretty long reuinion
21:34 <godix> But the reunion sucks. They sit there. They eat. The wander around. They ALMOST kiss but apparently that's not appropriate to show in a romance video because he cuts away from it before it happens.
21:34 <szwagier> quadir: The end of the vid works on what has been done earlier. If the vid got bad first impression, and then bad main body it is doomed even if the ending would be so awesome i would cry
21:35 <quadir> szwagier: you have them meeting at the train station, going out to eat, walking home, cuddling up with what ends up being her really crappy house
21:35 <quadir> but they are together at least
21:35 <godix> quadir: And he does such a poor job at conveying emotion that no one gives a fuck one way or another that they're together.
21:36 <quadir> godix: it's a bit emo that way
21:36 <quadir> godix: or angsty I guess?
21:36 <G_Q-Editing> It is a point that the journey certainly needed work, though.
21:36 <quadir> godix: put shingy in both roles :)
21:36 <szwagier> quadir: I know. But after i had to watch 1:30 of train going, and going I won't be able to feel the emotions even if they would be far better
21:37 <G_Q-Editing> There's little reminiscence or purpose in the journey, other than the letter and the destination.
21:37 * quadir nods.
21:37 <quadir> definatly a simple vid
21:37 <godix> no. Emo means emotion. This has no emotion. There isn't the slightest reason to care about either of these characters. He failed totally at making the audience identify with the characters.
21:37 <quadir> I think he could of easily fell into a beat-trap on cuts too
21:38 <quadir> and considering he had 2 frames to work with, he could of easily fall into it
21:38 <quadir> but he didn't
21:38 <godix> Technically the video was fine, aside from video quality. It's WHAT he showed that sucked not how he showed it.
21:38 <quadir> thing like the bag at 0:44 and some of the trumpet cut syncs I really liked
21:39 <quadir> and the introduction of the centre frame often went along with the high pitched fast-face organ playing
21:39 <szwagier> quadir: but he didn't need to fall into beat sync. Godix showed a good way how this would go - train in the beginning, flashback, train in the middle, flashback, train comes to the station, reunion
21:39 <quadir> and he used a more fast-moving/changing background there
21:39 <quadir> szwagier: is the song really long enough for more then a really simple story?
21:40 <godix> Yes. He cut down the song or found a short version. There are longer versions of this song around.
21:40 <szwagier> You want it simpler? Train in the begining, flashback, train comes to the station, reunion.
21:40 <quadir> yeah? it's his second video so I don't see wanting to shorten the song length as necesarrily a bad idea
21:41 <godix> Shortening the song length is fine and something I wish more people would do. However he should have added more to the video and if that required more time then don't cut down the song.
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21:41 <inthesto> GOD DAMMIT WHO PICKS THESE VIDEOS
21:42 <teya> ?
21:42 <godix> Usually it's dance or action videos that need shortening because they have no story. A drama/romance can use the length to convey their meaning. And he didn't.
21:42 <teya> what's the problem?
21:42 <inthesto> This is the most inverted video I've ever seen.
21:42 <inthesto> The song is supposed to be feeling good because you're going home
21:42 <inthesto> The video is all like "WAAAAAH I'M NEVER SEEING HER AGAIN"
21:43 <quadir> inthesto: how so? they get together at the end
21:43 <godix> inthesto: WTF? He's traveling to see her.
21:43 <inthesto> No way.
21:43 <quadir> inthesto: probably have happy reuinion sex
21:43 <inthesto> He's leaving, and he accidentally runs into her at the train station.
21:43 <inthesto> The imagery is all dark and somber and depressing.
21:43 <inthesto> THERE IS NO WAY HE'S GOING TO MEET HER
21:43 <teya> ..but he meets her
21:43 <godix> Uh, the video clearly shows that he was on the train before he ran into her. In fact it shows he was on the train entirely too long.
21:44 <godix> Although I'll agree on the dark and somber part. Nothing about this video makes it feel like he's happy to met her again.
21:44 <quadir> godix: dark times my friend, the cylons are in control
21:44 <inthesto> THE VIDEO IS ABOUT HIM BEING SAD BECAUSE HE'S LEAVING
21:44 <szwagier> maybe there was part about "no sex" in the letter, but he forgot to mention it in the vid?
21:44 <inthesto> THAT GIRL IS OBVIOUSLY A DOPPELGANGER
21:45 <G_Q-Editing> BY YOUR COMMAND
21:45 <godix> quadir: I'd give it a 10 for review if it ended with cylons blasting both characters and the train into tiny little chunks.
21:45 <inthesto> I'd give it a 10 if it had Grace Park.
21:45 <quadir> inthesto: okay I'm not seeing where you're coming from on the story part
21:45 * G_Q-Editing is a fan of the robotic KITTs... er, old Cylons.
21:45 <G_Q-Editing> ^_^
21:45 <quadir> inthesto: unless you're talking about the actual anime.. but I think this is alternate-universe in this case
21:46 <quadir> I haven't seen the movie so
21:46 <inthesto> Its just that all the imagery in the video gives the exact opposite mood of the song.
21:46 <inthesto> If I were to just watch the video without the audio, I'd think he was leaving, because he's all like "cry cry whimper train"
21:47 <quadir> inthesto: the video seems to be telling the story 1) their both grumpy in their places 2) she writes him a letter about not being able to live without him 3) he talks to her on the phone and they look angsty 4) he gets on train to her 5) they meet at the station, eat, walk out go to her run down shack and make sweet whoopee
21:47 <godix> I'll agree with sto there. The mood of the video is far more in line with something depressing.
21:47 <teya> it's somber
21:47 <godix> They didn't make sweet whoopee. They cuddled up, fully clothed, in a run down piece of shit apartment.
21:48 <teya> but not sad
21:48 <quadir> godix: appartment? they show the shack man
21:48 <quadir> godix: it's a tool shed
21:48 <quadir> godix: and they got thermoses, sweet warm thermoses
21:48 <G_Q-Editing> Yeah, it was a bit meh in the resolution.
21:48 <godix> Consider this is anime it's actually mildly suprising they didn't make sweet whoopee. I thought it was anime law that any character under the age of 18 must fuck someone.
21:48 <G_Q-Editing> It wasn't SaiKano.
21:49 <quadir> inthesto: yeah reviewing it I guess he does look like his world is dying on the train
21:49 <quadir> way too somber for someone coming home to whoopee
21:49 <szwagier> if this was Saikano we could have the joy of seeing that train going to pieces
21:49 <quadir> I just thought the world/life could explain that
21:50 <godix> Speaking as a married man, his apparent depression at meeting her is perfectly understandable. I get that way whenever I get within a few blocks of my house coming home from work.
21:50 <quadir> and they clearly start making whoopee at 1:53... and the cuddling at 1:58 is obviously post-coital
21:50 <quadir> the fact that it lasts 5 seconds.. escapes noyone
21:51 <teya> heh
21:51 <godix> quadir: WHat are you talking about. They don't even kiss. Now what he should have done was rip off her pants, throw her over a chair, and start going at her like a dog goes at his masters leg. Now *THAT* would have been an interesting end. Then the cylons come down and vaporize them both.
21:51 <quadir> godix: they so kiss
21:52 <godix> quadir: They so don't. They move in to do so then the scene cuts away. Because in a romance video the last thing you want to show is some romance.
21:52 <quadir> imagination
21:52 <quadir> not everyone needs to Crank it onscreen
21:53 <quadir> godix: they even... TOOK OFF THEIR SHOES
21:53 <quadir> that's so college dorm signals, leaving your shoes out
21:53 <godix> If I wanted to imagine a love story I'd sit back, close my eyes, and picture when Richard Simmons and Leandaro Decaprio meet. If I'm watching a romance video I want to SEE a love story not imagine it.
21:54 <quadir> I think we've all weighed in, any last comments? did you overall like or dislike the vid?
21:55 <quadir> ( if you still haven't written an op in please do so, it helps a lot and I'm sure he'd appreciate it )
21:56 <szwagier> More dislike. But It's not a type of vid i would tell the creator to burn in hell, but rather work more on concept things.
21:56 <teya> i liked it, overall
21:56 <inthesto> I almost liked it, but then I realized the lyrics were a total mismatch with the mood.
21:56 <quadir> I liked it overall, but I didn't find it very reviewable
21:57 <quadir> trythil: you watch the vid?
21:57 <trythil> no, I've been panicking
21:58 <godix> trythil: The video was boring but it wasn't so bad you should panic about seeing it.
22:01 <quadir> ( feel free to lurk in #amv-review there's actually amv discussions that seem to be taking place once in awhile during the week, you might catch one )
22:03 <G_Q-Editing> quadir: My overall was good, could have been better.
22:04 <shumira_chan> oh, yeah, sorry... OK, really didn't have much to say about it. Just OK.
22:08 <quadir> Thanks to everyone who made it out this week, and we're accepting suggestions by pm on irc/forums/email for videos next week
22:14 <quadir> godix: so how long do you think your op ability will last?
22:15 <godix> quadir: Well, the first request in my free op thread is Kevmasterflashdeluxe. So I'm guessing a few hours after I get bored enough to follow through on the ops I owe.
22:18 * quadir starts editing the thread, I'll just have to add in kionon when he shows
22:21 <godix> Editing wise it was strong. Carrying a concept and maintaining interest? No.
22:21 <quadir> godix: not a lot of vids do that though
22:22 <quadir> godix: pretty few and far between if you're trying to stay sortof current
22:22 <godix> And now you know why I don't watch recent videos that aren't well known enough to be highly recommended.
22:31 <szwagier> will lurk here from time to time to see if there are some discussions other then weekly ones ;]
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22:35 <quadir> Kionon: get yer op in, I'm waiting on ya
22:52 <Kionon> what the hell.
22:52 <Kionon> My computer is running odd.
22:53 < G_Q-Editing> Kio: How odd?
22:55 <Kionon> I may have to go from memory for the discussion at least.
22:56 <quadir> Kionon: can't play 'letter' in vlc right now?
22:56 <Kionon> Nope.
22:56 <Kionon> There it goes.
22:56 <Kionon> Okay, I like the song.
22:56 <Kionon> I like the- dammit it stalled.
22:57 <Kionon> I'm going to run my spyware dectection software, see if I've picked something up.
22:59 < G_Q-Editing> Probably that "Genuine Windows" detector (aka Shameless MS Vista plug) I did. :|
23:00 <Kionon> I have WGA-detection and removal software, actually.
23:01 < G_Q-Editing> It's sad that MS can run it's own legit spyware.
23:01 <Kionon> Anyhow, I really felt that letter was comical and shouldn't have been.
23:01 <Kionon> Lyrical literal sync is sometimes abused, but in the case of letter, I think it was metaphorical sync that was abused.
23:02 <Kionon> The lyric sync should have been tighter, because where the metaphor was too broad, I was laughing.
23:02 <Kionon> The box effect wasn't helpful in that regard either.
23:03 <Kionon> I thought the concept was cute, if not original.
23:03 <quadir> Kionon: I made a point that as far as a journey is concerned, the box effect beats out transparencies, allowing you to show centre pane character development while having a background changing (to fast paced organ music in one partof the video)
23:04 <Kionon> Oh, I think it was well done.
23:04 <Kionon> I just think it didn't fit a serious mood.
23:04 <Kionon> If the intent was to be cute, and it might have been, it suceeded.
23:04 <Kionon> But the song itself just didn't feel cutesy to me.
23:05 <quadir> Kionon: it's pretty down in mood
23:05 <quadir> Kionon: people mentioned that he doesn't seem happy at all to be going to meet her on the train... godix said he doesn't feel happy coming home to his wife either
23:05 <Kionon> It had elements of fun and elements of dramatic romance. It seemed... schizophrenic, and that really bothered.
23:06 <Kionon> I felt that there was a serious lack of clarity of vision. I didn't know how the editor wanted me to feel or think or draw from the video.
23:06 <quadir> where you seeing the 'fun' angle come in?
23:07 <Kionon> The box element seemed fun to me.
23:07 <Kionon> And some of the other pacing.
23:07 <Kionon> Perhaps cute is still a better word.
23:07 <Kionon> It seemed cutesy.
23:07 <Kionon> Upbeat. That's the category I'm looking for.
23:07 <Kionon> The video had elements of upbeat.
23:08 <Kionon> Which some romance videos do have.
23:08 <Kionon> And I love them.
23:08 <Kionon> But there were also elements of drama.
23:08 <quadir> but the mood was all somber
23:08 <quadir> even the lyrics
23:08 <Kionon> Didn't seem that way to me.
23:08 <quadir> trumpets and high pitched organ with horns does not upbeat make
23:09 <Kionon> I'm telling you what I felt.
23:09 <Kionon> If I could watch the video again, I'd be specific.
23:09 <Kionon> And it ended on a very, very cute "awww" note.
23:09 * quadir nods.
23:10 <quadir> very
23:10 <quadir> all that effort and all she has is this little tool shed, some thermoses and a blanket
23:10 <quadir> but they have each other now... :)
This video is on a optional-op basis, and thrown in so people have something fun or interesting at the end that didn't make the cut for this week's video choice
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Link: Jason Salce - 199x - Headup (direct link)
Editor: Jason Salce (rys)
Category: Comedy
Anime: Child's Toy
Song: Deaftones - Headup
If you want to discuss this video, please clearly indicate BONUS video in your post
IRC Log of discussion:
Participants: godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), Kionon, quadir (Olivier Beaton), szwagier (Paul Gaska)
FAQ:Edited IRC Log wrote:21:58 <quadir> Link: http://www.umbrellavideo.com/vault/jaso ... Headup.zip
21:59 <quadir> also, it will only play in vlc, and probably crash 2/3 of the way
22:00 <quadir> it's another ancient vid from vcr days and Child's Toy... well let's say I've never seen a good Child's Toy source
22:01 <godix> I wish minion would quit zipping those things. That gets annoying.
22:01 <quadir> yeah, pretty pointless just to save 500k
22:03 <G_Q-Editing> Also, I'll try this vid out with MPC.
22:03 <G_Q-Editing> See if it still crashes.
22:03 <G_Q-Editing> Sometimes, vids that crash in VLC work fine in MPC.
22:03 <godix> worked for me in MPC.
22:04 <G_Q-Editing> :up:
22:04 <quadir> G_Q-Editing: rys uses mpeg2
22:04 <G_Q-Editing> So do I. ^_^
22:05 <quadir> RYS actually made another great Child's Toy vid, with the Steevee skit but most people have seen that one
22:06 <quadir> Child's Toy is pretty old school at this point I think given how hard it is to find
22:07 <quadir> but who couldn't love a guy who sleeps in pygamas... with his shades on.
22:07 <godix> It's fairly easy to find. A friend of mine picked up the first few DVDs recently.
22:08 <quadir> yeah? I guess post-vhs it may be easier
22:08 <godix> although it's called Kodocha these days instead of childs toy.
22:08 <godix> er, childs play.
22:08 <godix> or whatever it used ot be called.
22:09 <quadir> godix: toy. play is the P-A charity
22:25 <szwagier> Bonus wasn't something special, but it was fun to watch indeed. Though the quality is so horrible it hurts :<
22:25 <quadir> szwagier: it's from the 90's
22:26 <quadir> szwagier: think 'rm days'
22:26 <szwagier> oh :O explains a lot :P
22:26 <quadir> szwagier: the last 2 weeks of bonus have been really oldschool vids that aren't really previously available online
22:27 <quadir> szwagier: needless to say... child's toy isn't anything like the music/video makes it seem
22:27 <quadir> szwagier: but it is sortof crazy
22:27 <szwagier> I watched a first few eps, so i know at least a bit about it :]
22:28 <godix> I like kodocha but I can only stand watching one episode a time with it. More than that and she starts giving me a headache.
22:28 <quadir> szwagier: I haven't finished it.. I heard it gets a lot worse
22:28 <quadir> szwagier: I could only ever find the first 12 eps in rm on the newsgroups back in the day
22:29 <quadir> godix: the mother's hair is h0t
22:29 <godix> quadir: Maybe but could you imagine fucking a woman who has a pet squirell that will come bite your eyes out while you're getting it on?
22:30 <quadir> godix: I'm reading a book that's sortof like that right now
22:31 <godix> getting your eyes scratched out while fucking a woman? You have interesting reading tastes.
22:31 <quadir> godix: actually it's my friend's choices
22:31 <quadir> I just read what's handed to me
22:33 <godix> Remind me to look up the dick chaney slash fanfic and give that to you someday.
22:34 -!- Kionon has joined #amv-review
22:41 <Kionon> RYS
22:41 <Kionon> Is
22:41 <Kionon> AWESOME.
22:41 <quadir> yes his steevy vid is more well known
22:41 <quadir> but this video wasn't previously available :)
22:41 <Kionon> One True Love is the why he is awesome.
23:18 <Kionon> One True Love by RYS is number 8 on my list of favorite amvs.
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Q: What are the previous weeks post?
2007-03-26: Taema Dreiden's "Cyber Sense"
2007-03-19: Bryan Pardue's "Kei"
