Fate of Angels (Sailor Moon & System of a Down)

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:56 pm

Garylisk wrote:If it's something else, I will have to re-encode it and re-upload it.

Lecture the ignorant, not the erroneous.

DaCoolGohan · Post by **DaCoolGohan** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:10 pm

Garylisk wrote:
Garylisk wrote:If it's something else, I will have to re-encode it and re-upload it.
Lecture the ignorant, not the erroneous.

No idea what you are referring to right there, but I guess its supposed to be a slight against me. Sorry that I wanted to point out something I found wrong in your video technically and telling you how to fix it.

jubjub2 · Post by **jubjub2** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:18 pm

I kinda liked it... Nice use of just a few episodes.

Kitsuner · Post by **Kitsuner** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:57 pm

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DaCoolGohan · Post by **DaCoolGohan** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:09 pm

Ah, Fresh.

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:32 pm

DaCoolGohan wrote:
Garylisk wrote:
Garylisk wrote:If it's something else, I will have to re-encode it and re-upload it.
Lecture the ignorant, not the erroneous.
No idea what you are referring to right there, but I guess its supposed to be a slight against me. Sorry that I wanted to point out something I found wrong in your video technically and telling you how to fix it.

No no, I don't slight others, especially online. Not worth it. It would only make me look foolish. I was saying, simply, that while you may have meant to merely express your opinion and offer advice, you instead came off as if you were lecturing. Be that as it may, the meaning behind your remarks are noted, and I will have to look into the encoding issue, which I am still baffled as to why the frame rate became 23.98.

Prodigi · Post by **Prodigi** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:41 pm

DCG: The hooker called. She wants her 8 ball back.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:08 pm

Garylisk wrote:...I will have to look into the encoding issue, which I am still baffled as to why the frame rate became 23.98.

If your exports are 23.976 fps then possibly during post-processing or encoding the numbers got rounded up to 2 decimal places instead of 3 places. I know Magix only counts to 2 decimal places: 23.976 fps material is treated as 23.98 fps and exported as such.

I've had weird rounding issues with AviSynth and/or VirtualDubMod. To alleviate them, I've switched from decimal numbers to fractional equivalents. Instead of 23.976 i use 24000/1001 and for 29.97, 30000/1001 (e.g. AssumeFPS(30000, 1001) instead of AssumeFPS(29.97)). The repeating numbers (29.97002997002997002997002997003) become insignificant, but for some reason, my machine counts them and wants to round down with some sources (29.96 instead of 29.97). Limitations of the floating point capabilities of my processor (Athlon64X2)?

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:11 pm

Willen wrote:
Garylisk wrote:...I will have to look into the encoding issue, which I am still baffled as to why the frame rate became 23.98.
If your exports are 23.976 fps then possibly during post-processing or encoding the numbers got rounded up to 2 decimal places instead of 3 places. I know Magix only counts to 2 decimal places: 23.976 fps material is treated as 23.98 fps and exported as such.

I've had weird rounding issues with AviSynth and/or VirtualDubMod. To alleviate them, I've switched from decimal numbers to fractional equivalents. Instead of 23.976 i use 24000/1001 and for 29.97, 30000/1001 (e.g. AssumeFPS(30000, 1001) instead of AssumeFPS(29.97)). The repeating numbers (29.97002997002997002997002997003) become insignificant, but for some reason, my machine counts them and wants to round down with some sources (29.96 instead of 29.97). Limitations of the floating point capabilities of my processor (Athlon64X2)?

I doubt it's a processor limitation. However, I looked at the Lagarith export of my video, and it's also 23.98fps, meaning the problem occured when exporting from premiere. I can probably fix the issue in AviSynth with a simple AssumeFps(23.976) and be done with it. The frame rate difference, at least on my screen, doesn't make much of a difference. I can't tell the difference, I am sure some people with better monitors than me can see it. Much like I am sure that people with better speakers hear the difference between a 128kbps mp3 and a 192 kbps mp3. (I can hear the difference, but in a video, I generally don't sweat it, and sacrifice the quality for filesize.)

My biggest concerns with this video have to do with the daughter frames I've seen after watching it a couple more times. The grainy video, well, can't do anything about it. That's CLEANED footage. Anyone who has seen ADV's SM release understands, I am sure. It's just as scary as the region 2 release of Sailor Stars.

godix · Post by **godix** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:48 pm

Garylisk wrote:My biggest concerns with this video have to do with the daughter frames I've seen after watching it a couple more times.

I like that this happens on the very first cut you did in the video. Definitely an old skool video, we just don't get quality editing like that anymore.