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OPS, GET THEM WHILE THEY LAST

Post by cycangfx » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:10 am

Ok, the deal is that you tell me how to get these quailty settings in virtual dub without a huge file size and you get ops. The chart goes as follows-

If you solve my question within the next 5 min's I will OP 8 of your videos

If you solve my question within the next 30 min's I will OP 6 of your videos

If you solve my question within the next 1 hour I will OP 5 of your videos

If you solve my question any later then 1 hour I will OP 3 of your videos

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Re: OPS, GET THEM WHILE THEY LAST

Post by cycangfx » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:11 am

cycangfx wrote:Ok, the deal is that you tell me how to get these quailty settings in virtual dub without a huge file size and you get ops. The chart goes as follows-

If you solve my question within the next 5 min's I will OP 8 of your videos

If you solve my question within the next 30 min's I will OP 6 of your videos

If you solve my question within the next 1 hour I will OP 5 of your videos

If you solve my question any later then 1 hour I will OP 3 of your videos
BTW, the quailty settings I want are from this vid-

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=77799

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Post by BauziOLD » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:18 am

Ok. What you need is http://www.xvid.org/ and of course a good input. That means a got overworked file to compress.
Good: DVD footage with some effects added with avisynth.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

Bad: Recompress something compressed (Fansubed Footage).
Verybad: Footage from the Tube.

So now let´s start!
Open your file in VDM. Go to "Streams" - "Streamlist". Rightclick onto the audio stream and click "Full processing Mode". Right Click again onto the stream and set up the mp3 compression. If you don´t do that you get a huge filesize duo to the uncompressed audio.

Alright. Press "ok" and go to "File" - "Save As". Downwards stands "change" click it and choose XviD. Press configure and set it up this way:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html
I recommend average 3000kbps Second Pass for the final step.

Everything alright? Fine! Press ok and let it save and compress in XviD. Your file is ready.

As I said: If you put crap quality footage in, XviD as well as other codecs won´t work very good. Look onto the guides here how to restore your material.
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Post by BauziOLD » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:21 am

Quality is "bad" in this amv. If you do everything alright it is possible to get 10MB for 1 Minute of the amv.

You can get better compressions with XviD and of course with x264:
Out of a old PM to someone wrote:The best for x264 is:
-The footage. Looseless codecs alone are not enought. You need to clean up your source (perfect: NTSC DVDs; I use PAL, but they are harder to deinterlance etc.)
Follow the guides here for restoring your footage.
Use for example: MSmooth(strength=2,debug=true)
or strength=1
After you have the final output from your editing software. Use VDM and add the Filter "temporal smoother" (level 2 or 1 should do it). It helped me alot with my last project.
Smoother should be also good for fansubs and raws.

-The audio footage
AAC+ hev2 The BEST you can use for. I used for this amv AAC+ with only 48kbps and it still sounds awesome. I didn´t figured out how to use hev2 with more than 55 kbps, but you can also use normal AAC+. I guess that you only need normal AAC+ for heavy songs like from Death Metal or whatever. If you can get the original wav of a song... Get it and use it for your AAC+ and encode with NeroDigitalAudio (the only free AAC+ hev2 encoder).

-The x264 script
Get http://x264.nl/ and bring it on!
For detailed working read threw:
http://aflux.deltaanime.net/Zero1/MP4/x264.html

So here is my newest script I use to encode. It´s like my old just with some new parameters that work good:

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x264.exe --crf 20 --bframes 5 --ref 3 --qpmin 16 --analyse all --weightb --me umh --subme 6 --b-rdo --mixed-refs --bime --8x8dct --trellis 2 --progress --fps 23.976 --output test20.mp4 "video.avs"
PAUSE
END

Rename the textfile into .bat and start via doubleclick on it. A DOS console window should appear with the "work".

The parameters:
--crf 20
Is a parameter for quality and how he picks out the quality. It´s like average bitrate in 2nd pass XviD. A lower number after the crf means a better visual quality and bigger filesize. Most of the time you will need something between 18 and 20.
You can place also --bitrate 2000 instead of it. That´s just with a constant bitrate. In my experience I only needed it one time when I had an extrem amv with 20 seconds of noise in the beginning (that messed up the whole crf so I needed "bitrate"). Just make different encodes and compare them.

--fps
Your framerate

The "video.avs":

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avisource("Seen It - Mainpart-01.avi")
converttoyv12()

#This little script is needed for the encode! You can put also some other changes like crooping into, but it isn´t recommended. So don´t do that.

Than you need MP4Box (should be the programm I have, if it doesn´t work I´ll send you mine) to add the AAC+ Stream.
Add the audio stream (I guess that it hasn´t to be an audio stream. It could be also Subs or another video) with this little script:

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MP4Box.exe -add "D:\enc\test20.mp4#video" -fps 25 -add "D:\enc\audio.m4a" "D:\enc\[LGS] Seen It [x264].mp4"
PAUSE
EXIT

Rename the textfile into .bat and start via doubleclick on it. A DOS console window should appear with the "work".

Most of the time you will compare the different outputs and use the best for your needs.
or:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... 64gui.html
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Post by BauziOLD » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:29 am

I searched a bit in your profil...
So: I guess you use WMM, because of the wmv files.

There isn´t a way to put a file out in a looseless codec, but into a loosy one. Put out a DV-avi file and use that for final compression in VDM or in one of those x264 builds.
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Post by cycangfx » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:30 am

Bauzi wrote:Ok. What you need is http://www.xvid.org/ and of course a good input. That means a got overworked file to compress.
Good: DVD footage with some effects added with avisynth.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

Bad: Recompress something compressed (Fansubed Footage).
Verybad: Footage from the Tube.

So now let´s start!
Open your file in VDM. Go to "Streams" - "Streamlist". Rightclick onto the audio stream and click "Full processing Mode". Right Click again onto the stream and set up the mp3 compression. If you don´t do that you get a huge filesize duo to the uncompressed audio.

Alright. Press "ok" and go to "File" - "Save As". Downwards stands "change" click it and choose XviD. Press configure and set it up this way:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/xvid.html
I recommend average 3000kbps Second Pass for the final step.

Everything alright? Fine! Press ok and let it save and compress in XviD. Your file is ready.

As I said: If you put crap quality footage in, XviD as well as other codecs won´t work very good. Look onto the guides here how to restore your material.
But I only have fansubs, but they are high quailty DIVX'S. I want to know if I make my best quailty possible (from vegas, which is not really the best) can I improve it virtualdubmod?

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Post by BauziOLD » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:36 am

cycangfx wrote: But I only have fansubs, but they are high quailty DIVX'S. I want to know if I make my best quailty possible (from vegas, which is not really the best) can I improve it virtualdubmod?
Yes and no. DivX material isn´t so good at all. There are wrong colour spaces and more. The best you can do is to make an avs-script (look into the guides) and load the file with:
DirectShowSource("C:\path of file\file.avi")

So now you have the possibility to clean your footage up with avs:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ssing.html

mark the scences you want with the arrows and put out files in a looseless codec. Like Lagarith (recommended) or HuffYUV (for slower systems).
Work with those clips in Vegas and final render them again into a looseless codec (wich you finaly compress afterwards).

If you do this method you can get nice filesizes of 10MB/1min.
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Post by cycangfx » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:55 am

Bauzi wrote:
cycangfx wrote: But I only have fansubs, but they are high quailty DIVX'S. I want to know if I make my best quailty possible (from vegas, which is not really the best) can I improve it virtualdubmod?
Yes and no. DivX material isn´t so good at all. There are wrong colour spaces and more. The best you can do is to make an avs-script (look into the guides) and load the file with:
DirectShowSource("C:\path of file\file.avi")

So now you have the possibility to clean your footage up with avs:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ssing.html

mark the scences you want with the arrows and put out files in a looseless codec. Like Lagarith (recommended) or HuffYUV (for slower systems).
Work with those clips in Vegas and final render them again into a looseless codec (wich you finaly compress afterwards).

If you do this method you can get nice filesizes of 10MB/1min.
I am shit at coding... is there any other way with virtualdub?

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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:06 am

take the fansubs and recompress them to lagarith clips (also kill the audio), and edit with those...

when you export from vegas export as a lagarith file, take the file clean it up with avisynth and compress with XVID or .h264 (or whatever the "new" codec is for the mp4 container...)

this is how i do it.

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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:07 am

(though i use DVD footage instead of fansubs)

by the way why cant you use DVDs?

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