Copyright Infringement and a-m-v.org

[godix]

/me glances at sig

Just checking to see if it's still accurate. It is.

Anyway, to directly answer the question, the reason the org gets away with it is that neither the RIAA or anime companies have told us to stop it. Pretty simple reason actually. Now if you want to know WHY they haven't then you aren't gonna find out by asking a website full of people who don't work for the RIAA or anime companies.

[Infinity Squared]

Now if you want to know WHY they haven't then you aren't gonna find out by asking a website full of people who don't work for the RIAA or anime companies.

Heh... simple and the truth... whatever else that will be said and have been said before over and over again are probably just speculation for the most part.

[JaddziaDax]

Now if you want to know WHY they haven't then you aren't gonna find out by asking a website full of people who don't work for the RIAA or anime companies.

not to mention this is the reason Wind-up records was alerted to this site in the first place...

:/

[Dime_fan3]

Speaking from a musicians point of view: I wouldn't care (in fact, i'd find it flattering) that someone went to the trouble of making a AMV to my song. Also it would help promote the song (ie someone sees the amv at a con, likes the song and thus finds out more about my music, which most likley would lead them to buying the CD.) Te same deal would also apply to the anime being used.
Of course if my name was lars ulrich (or, apparently, amy lee), I would'nt be that open-minded, spit the dummy, and try and sue the devoted (and considerably less richer) fan of my band for all their worth.

[Scintilla]

So this site is nothing near a problem.. because the only people that care about this site are the amv makers.. and thank god too.

You forgot about the AMV <i>viewers</i>.

Of course if my name was lars ulrich (or, apparently, amy lee), I would'nt be that open-minded, spit the dummy, and try and sue the devoted (and considerably less richer) fan of my band for all their worth.

For the last time, Amy Lee had nothing to do with this. It was the record label, NOT the artists, that got Evanescence, Creed, and Seether video links removed.

Hell, there's even one video info entry (for a video that was made BEFORE Evanescence videos became ubiquitous) that claims that Amy Lee saw the video at a Texas anime con and really liked it.

[JudgeHolden]

The issue all comes down to money, and whether or not we affect the bottom line of said companies. In the realm of anime, we do not; in fact, many anime companies support our hobby by turning a blind eye. What has gotten the AMV creators in trouble on YouTube, are the FANSUBBERS and the idiot children who upload entire episodes of the US releases. These two things DO affect the bottom line of anime companies and therefore fall into their crosshairs. The problem is that AMV’s get caught in the crossfire because the companies put out a blanket search for anybody who has, let’s say Inu, on their video listing. Now, as for the Music companies, we do affect their bottom line, whether we like to admit it or not. While I have bought the music for all my videos, I know of people who like to rip the songs from AMVs to listen to, therefore not paying for the music itself (Unlike an AMV, where you only get a "Preview" of the anime). While the artists might not mind this, they are (and their labels) perfectly right in asking us to pull certain songs or bands from our catalogue. Now, we might see this as greed, but it is the nature of Copyright Laws (which are there to protect profits). Therefore, in the end, it will not be the Anime companies that may kill this hobby, but the music companies … keep your eyes on the Real Enemy. o.0


Now, I think that there is to little of that horse left to beat.

JH

[Scintilla]

While I have bought the music for all my videos, I know of people who like to rip the songs from AMVs to listen to, therefore not paying for the music itself (Unlike an AMV, where you only get a "Preview" of the anime).

... what the hell, people actually do this?

And I always thought that the people who were tech-savvy enough to know how to rip audio from an AMV were also tech-savvy enough to realize that it's easier just to get the song from a file-sharing utility (especially when you consider having to cut the audio track from an AMV down to get rid of blank space and/or credits sequences, which requires a recompression).

[Taruto!]

While I have bought the music for all my videos, I know of people who like to rip the songs from AMVs to listen to, therefore not paying for the music itself (Unlike an AMV, where you only get a "Preview" of the anime).

... what the hell, people actually do this?

I knew someone who downloaded AMVs just for the songs to rip them and then use them because they can't find them anywhere else online and couldn't be bothered buying an entire album for one song. It's fair enough if you don't want to pay full whack for an album you only want one song from, but there's plenty of places online to buy single songs from now.. I've never understood why people do it.

As for copyright laws.. s'long as I have the cd & the source footage, I'm not gonna stop editing. If they threaten me I'll take it down, but I won't stop editing. :/

[Qyot27]

While I have bought the music for all my videos, I know of people who like to rip the songs from AMVs to listen to, therefore not paying for the music itself (Unlike an AMV, where you only get a "Preview" of the anime).

... what the hell, people actually do this?

And I always thought that the people who were tech-savvy enough to know how to rip audio from an AMV were also tech-savvy enough to realize that it's easier just to get the song from a file-sharing utility (especially when you consider having to cut the audio track from an AMV down to get rid of blank space and/or credits sequences, which requires a recompression).

Actually (at least for MP3/MP2/MP1, PCM, and Vorbis - iffy with AAC) all it takes is knowledge of where to set the right in and out points in VDubMod and hit 'Demux' or in PCM's case, 'Save WAV'. I've actually had to do that to correct messed up internet radio stream dumps, which is how I came to find that out.

Funny enough, though, MP4 releases (if they use AAC) are played as audio-only in Winamp 2.95 as if the video stream doesn't even exist, if one doesn't have the video plugin for that version, that is. So for that at least there is the possibility of it being almost transparent (not in the audio quality sense).

[Scintilla]

While I have bought the music for all my videos, I know of people who like to rip the songs from AMVs to listen to, therefore not paying for the music itself (Unlike an AMV, where you only get a "Preview" of the anime).

... what the hell, people actually do this?

And I always thought that the people who were tech-savvy enough to know how to rip audio from an AMV were also tech-savvy enough to realize that it's easier just to get the song from a file-sharing utility (especially when you consider having to cut the audio track from an AMV down to get rid of blank space and/or credits sequences, which requires a recompression).

Actually (at least for MP3/MP2/MP1, PCM, and Vorbis - iffy with AAC) all it takes is knowledge of where to set the right in and out points in VDubMod and hit 'Demux' or in PCM's case, 'Save WAV'. I've actually had to do that to correct messed up internet radio stream dumps, which is how I came to find that out.

I know how to do it, but considering the time spent downloading the video in the first place, I still don't consider that easier than file-sharing.

I screwed up; I should have specified that it requires a recompression ONLY IF you want to store the song in a compressed format.