Premiere Pro 2 and codecs hate eachother

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Premiere Pro 2 and codecs hate eachother

Post by SQ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:45 pm

I didn't know where to put this, Adobe software or encoding. So I guessed. Now that I'm here, I think it may have been better in encoding. D:

Anyway.

I am making my first video with Premiere Pro 2. I used to use Premiere 6.
I have AMVapp and all that nice stuff.

When I had Premiere 6, I only had 256mb of ram and a 1.5GHz processor, or something extremely shitty like that.
I would render my video files as MJPEG, and my renders would go like THAT. Snap, done(unless it was a fade or something).

Now I have a 2.2GHz (each) dual processor and 2gb ram.
I'm rendering my files as MJPEG, but it's taking FOREVER. DX

I have tried other codecs, too. And it still takes forever. I can't figure out what's going on!

On the flop side, the avs import plugin doesn't work for pro 2, and for some reason, huffyuv won't work on my computer. I thought it was because it was the new version, so uninstalled huffyuv and installed version 2.1, and that doesn't work either. It will work in vdubmod and Premiere, but it won't be strideable(I can't seek through it).

In addition, while I was trying all these different codecs to render video in, exporting my video as XviD crashes Premiere. rendering in WMV9 performs an illegial operation. Exporting as the new VC-1 codec from Microsoft in an avi container produces audio but no sound. Trying to export as WMV gives me an error about "downsizing audio" and it refuses to export.

DUBYA TEE EFF?

Otherwise, I have no codec conflicts. It all seems to be centered around Premiere.
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Post by SQ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:49 pm

Exporting as the new VC-1 codec from Microsoft in an avi container produces audio but no sound.
Produces audio but no video.


Also, I'd like to note that a week or so a go I changed Windows XP registry; someone on the forums was complaining about how he couldn't play mp4s in WMP and wanted to. Another person said it would be easy to get mp4s to play in WMP using this thing he compiled himself, that changed the registry. Being as I trusted the .org and this guy had joined long a go(IIRC), I downloaded it and my computer has been acting strangely ever since.

I don't remember what the file was, who the guy was, what thread it was, and I didn't post in that thread so I can't really track back to it.

So if nothing else, if there's a way to reset the registry, I'd go for that, 'cause that likely has something to do with all this crap.
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Post by Minion » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:54 am

i generally edit with either .avs (which isn't an option for you), or lagarith encoded avi.
then export with lagarith and do my compression in vdub.
lagarith should encode slower than huffy, but it spares you some more hd space.
i've never had much luck exporting xvid from premiere either
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Post by SQ » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:02 am

Yeah, I ended up encoding the vobs into lagarith because it was the only thing that worked.

I normally export huffyuv from Premiere and then import in VdubMod and export some distro format from there, but when making betas, I used Windows Media Video plugin in 6, which was easy.

The one in Pro 2 is a bitch to work with, and keeps giving me the whole "Downsizing audio not allowed" error thing.

But I'm not really as annoyed at that as I am with the rendering. All I want is my dissolves to look smoother when previewing so it will lag less(it's already pretty minimal, but I'm OCD).

I have plenty of HDD space(over a terabyte) but it's the speed I'm hating right now, and I have no idea why it's so slow, when it was faster on my piece of shit machine! D:
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Re: Premiere Pro 2 and codecs hate eachother

Post by Sereenie » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:23 am

SQ wrote:On the flop side, the avs import plugin doesn't work for pro 2
If you mean the plugin that allows you to use avs files directly in PP2.0, yes, it does work. I too thought it didn't, but it turned out I'd simply installed it in the wrong folder.

More details in this thread.

Good luck!

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Post by Willen » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:10 am

I thought the only reliable export option for APP2 was uncompressed. :P

Although MJPEG is supposed to work ok too...
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Post by SQ » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:10 am

Sereenie: Huh, thanks for the avs plugin info. When I was looking in folders to install in, I kind of guessed.

Willen: I was under the impression that was fixed for 2 in the "pro vs other versions" thread.

And MJPEG does work. The lossy and lossless versions. But, the lossy versionw ill give you the warning about the logo EVERY CLIP(that on video 1 of 15 or whatever for previewing? Now you have to hit the damn warning "ok" 15 times) AND it encodes MUCH SLOWER.

I can't figure out why that is. In 6, It wasn't slow and I only had to press the warning at the beginning.

My clips in Pro 2 have nothing special about them; all I have done is have long clips with a few fades since it's a slow song. MJPEG in 6 should take 5 minutes at most to encode this, Pro 2 is taking 9 - 10.
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