Writers Bloc

[Knowname]

I have a feature in mind that I would like to discuss here before I suggest it in the sparseley populated site suggestion area.

That feature is a tabbed video page where, instead of where we have the old, boring info block I would like a tab called Writer's Block and the other tab, Creator's Block.

Why: Because I'd like to review my own video of coarse
BUT! whenever I start to I think... 'man this is egotistical' mostly because if I DO op my own video like the rest of the public ops my video, the numbers I give will be added to the total score. I beleive this taints the process and should be avoided! So I abort that notion almost upon conception! (take that! Pro-Lifers) I DO have another choice that I have seen other creators take. I can op it in my info box. The problem here is I do not like to concern everybody with my dirty laundry. See the info box is what everybody sees when their considering downloading your video. My personal opinion would likely be ALL incluseive when considering that video because, after all, I DID make it (hopefully). Therefore I would not want the people who have NOT downloaded my video to see just where I goofed up or experienced logical inconsistencies etc. That idea is also aborted for my own good... and for the good of the world .

What I really want is a place I could write my own video notes. Now Dokidoki for instance, is infamous at submitting us to these in probably the MOST logical fasion, via an off-site link. Problem is, though I'm SURE their VERY interesting. I never read them. Too lazy. Not only that, but I am too lazy to host (and upkeep... upkeeping is the BITCH) my own site that I can link to with such notes.

So! what I propose is, would it be so hard to make a tab where we can provide creator's notes AWAY from the general public's eye? That's not too say the public cannot just flip the tab over to the creator's notes, but once they do that they cease to be public but are public with a rather private interest so to say. It would also be cool if, like the submiting opinions link, it were not possible to flip tabs UNTIL you had downloaded the video (if a local copy is available) to stow off those that would flip the tab beforehand just to never download your video.

Why again? I do not like wordy info pages. The general public do NOT want to know your qc's or what SOFTWARE you used. Save that for the creators! The people there probably didn't even download your video!! Why delay them or make them hesitate (suppose someone HATED After Effects because SO many people overuse it or you want to show off your l33t WMM skillz yet good luck in mentioning it and still getting many staunch elitests to watch). *AHEM... not nameing names, but MOST of them use Sony Vegas...*

[Jnzk]

I do not like wordy info pages. The general public do NOT want to know your qc's or what SOFTWARE you used.

You != general public

[Orwell]

I had a actual arguement for this, but essentially I think the idea is pointless. I agree with Janzki. If you really want to have off-site notes, one could abuse the Journals, or go to www.freewebs.com and make all the notes you want to for it, formatted how you please.

[godix]

Try this instead. Go ahead and write your notes. Go typing happy and make a fucking novel of it if you want to. Document all those little things no one cares about. Feel free to mention the name and background of the vietnamise whore who is your muse. Type up a cut by cut description of the editing process. Include all those little pre-processing tips you picked up like how tracing the scene on the monitor with a magic marker doesn't actually make the lines darker and any other astounding insights you may have picked up (assuming, of course, you learned anything at all. Which is a rather questionable assumption to begin with). Bring up how the video was delayed because you were in the hospital after what the farmer did to you when he found you buck naked with your fists up a chickens ass, your dick up a goats ass, and your head up a cows ass. Hell, go ahead and tell about all the gold stars your mommy gave you just because you finally found a hobby that didn't involve shagging the family pet. Then when you're done you should sit back, bask in the glow of a large project completed, wack off a couple times to how great you are for doing this, then delete the damned thing. If it's so pointless no one wants to see it in the video description then it's so pointless that no one wants to see it period.

[Arigatomina]

Or you could just put it in the vid description. Save it. Then delete the entire thing and write a new vid description. The old description (with all the notes) will be the first date linked in the "Comment History".

Only someone really bored would go and look at all the old drafts you made for the vid page. They're just the people who'd want to read your notes. And it's already hidden just a link away.

[Knowname]

I had a actual arguement for this, but essentially I think the idea is pointless. I agree with Janzki. If you really want to have off-site notes, one could abuse the Journals, or go to www.freewebs.com and make all the notes you want to for it, formatted how you please.

again, the problem with off-site (free) hosting is the upkeep. I only have experience with Geocities really, but it has a quota of say, every 6 months. May sound incredibly lazy on my part. But I don't exactly make a video every six months. And even if I do, I'd like the peice of mind that, if I happen to fall into the addiction of an MMO for too long, I can return without my video notes being scrapped. Bottom line, I just don't think it would be that hard to implament this and it would save me ALOT of trouble. If it is hard, though, than I am willing to give in.

Thankyou for your interest though -_- I'm glad I don't have ALL insane ideas, or we are just insane together -_- (we did both make Karin videos of EQUAL off base insanity ;p). Anyway don't give up the fight. There were many, like Otohiko, Klinky, maybe even Kusoyaro, that suggested I just give up on the OT, but... look who's laughing now ;p. (of coarse, not me cuz I haven't donated yet... but) So never give up, never give in!

To Janzki, while it is true that I may jumble my words. YOU are not the general public when it comes to your own video, you ARE the general public when it comes to other videos. You switch sides because you no longer have any control over the development process.

[quote='Mina]Or you could just put it in the vid description. Save it. Then delete the entire thing and write a new vid description. The old description (with all the notes) will be the first date linked in the "Comment History".

Only someone really bored would go and look at all the old drafts you made for the vid page. They're just the people who'd want to read your notes. And it's already hidden just a link away.[/quote]

that's a great idea! much better than my idea a la Menchi notes...

but again it's a very wastefull idea, not a bad alternative if a mod thinks it too hard to implament. But I would think this act would use up just as much bandwidth if not more than the tab plus would be aLOT less likeley to be accessed.

But a better idea than offsite. I like it!

And always thankyou for the entertainment, Godix

[Arigatomina]

...but again it's a very wastefull idea, not a bad alternative if a mod thinks it too hard to implament. But I would think this act would use up just as much bandwidth if not more than the tab plus would be aLOT less likeley to be accessed.

I thought it was wasteful when they first did the backup link. Just think, half the backup pages only have one word changed. For the wordy people that's a couple pages for each link, just so one word could be changed. Every time you edit a single word - the entire page is saved and linked. Messy.
But it's there. Might as well use it. ;p

/re: geocities - I think as long as the page is accessed (opened) by one person every few months it will stay online. I have some really old geocities pages that only get a few hits per year and they're still floating around the net. I ran across a site a while back that must have been from 2000, don't know how the hell it's being accessed enough to stay online. I never linked to it in the first place because it wasn't finished. o.o;

[Knowname]

I thought it was wasteful when they first did the backup link. Just think, half the backup pages only have one word changed. For the wordy people that's a couple pages for each link, just so one word could be changed. Every time you edit a single word - the entire page is saved and linked. Messy.
But it's there. Might as well use it. ;p

true again, I'd just rather not clutter up my info page with bad links that no longer have any relevance. The mod's original reason for haveing backup links (I think they'd prefer only one if possible) is very reasonable though. As the story goes, I believe it was because of Tom the Fish' 'absence' (and refusal to come back lol), they would appreciate some kind of permanent record. It's a good idea.

But as for your method. doing this would create not 1 but 2 backups per edit! Sure you could just put, in your info box, see -this date- for up to the minute video notes, but... it would just be messy...

However I am thinking that the code had not been created that would log the info page, yet not log creator's notes changes. I'm imagining it getting just about as messy over time anyway. Maybe as an interactive Java applet it may not be as messy....

So again I'm kinda' leanin' towards the offsite now because you can update your notes without the messyness! I don't know. Damned lucky webmasters... I WANT WEBSPACE! Permanent, free webspace!!!~~

[Shazzy]

So again I'm kinda' leanin' towards the offsite now because you can update your notes without the messyness! I don't know. Damned lucky webmasters... I WANT WEBSPACE! Permanent, free webspace!!!~~

There are lots of places that are free and as permanent as you can get...go through the free webspace power search.