x264 yeah or na

[Infinity Squared]

Are you saying that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray use ONLY VC-1 or it's one of the options and many companies have gone with?

Last I heard, H264 was also being looked into for HD applications. Either that or I might have just been reading something about HD television broadcasts instead. More than likely, it's both

[DJ_Izumi]

No... They can't 'look into it' for a home video disk format. You standardize it and you never change it.

Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD support MPEG-2, VC-1 and h.264 for video. And they can all do all that out of the box. You can't 'add new features' later cause it fucks up the compatability between successive generations of various hardware. In the home, we can't screw around with that, like we can with PCs.

So yes, h.264 is by standard used in both HD disk formats. But you don't necessarily have to use it. I read that early authoring tools that some hollywood companies have used only supported Mpeg-2 for content creation. But the players will decode and work with any of those three natively and happily.

Because of this, I'm quite curious what HD players will support h.264 in standard data files like MP4 or MKV read directly off a disk. (Yeah, probably won't support MKV)

But you could probably dump your HD fansub MKV to MP4, burn it to a DVD data disk, and it'll run on the player. Like how many DVD players can play Mpegs and MP3s off data disks.

Though I dunno about subtitles...

[shumira_chan]

Has anyone tried dual video track releases?

I've thought about this, but not in the way you are
thinking. My idea is to make an AMV which can sync
with two separate audio tracks, all in a single MKV.
For extra effect use contrasting songs: one is a drama
AMV, the other comedy. Have yet to see that done. I'd
be impressed if anyone can pull that off successfully.

[Zarxrax]

i havn't taken the time out to read up on the codec, but i hear people say h.264 and x.264
are they the same codec and people just can't agree what to call it, or is one of them a modified version of the other (like xvid,divx)

H.264 is the name of the standard.
x264 is the name of an open-source encoder that creates files conforming to the standard.

[Coffee 54]

To date, I haven't received any 'can't view' comments on my first x.264 video, and I was even too lazy provide links to VLC or CCCP like most 264 editors do. I've decided to stick with it. But for future releases I likely will provide links to VLC and CCCP, maybe even offer xvid or mpeg verisons by request.

[aesling]

Has anyone tried dual video track releases? In an MKV you can have entirely seperate and paralelle video tracks so you could have an MKV containing both the h.264 and the XviD or DivX and select between which you want to view.

Yeah, but considering how much people complain about not being able to play h264, I don't really think MKV would fly. I mean, they would have to download the codec pack, oh noes! Plus in my experience MKV is at least as difficult to get to play right as h264, if not more so depending on the file.

[DJ_Izumi]

What's so hard? You install CCCP, away you go.

[Niotex]

What's so hard? You install CCCP, away you go.

You know that. I know that. They dont know that.

[Szwagier]

Has anyone tried dual video track releases? In an MKV you can have entirely seperate and paralelle video tracks so you could have an MKV containing both the h.264 and the XviD or DivX and select between which you want to view.

If they didn't want to download cccp/vlc for *.mp4 file why would they do that for *.mkv ? :O

[aesling]

My point exactly.