Looking to upgrade...

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:54 pm

Janzki wrote:
Joe88 wrote:I do suggest a 975X chipset over the P965 on the mobo part
Care to elaborate why? Shouldn't P965 be perfectly sufficient, especially for a buyer on a budget?

the overall performance is better
but thats why I said this under it

Joe88 wrote: but you might not be able to do it for that price , those chipsets start at $150 I belive

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:11 pm

P965 can only use ddr2 that runs at 1.8v at latencies of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6, and that ram isn't cheap. (I assume that the 975X doesn't have this problem)

on this budget, core2 duo is pretty much out of the question (which is why I recommended the athlon x2 socket AM2)

AMD seems to be phasing-out s939, so the small difference in price between the cpu and ddr/ddr2 makes AM2 more favorable.
The athlon 64 x2 4200+ it's still a good dual-core cpu.

I was careful to select a mobo that supported ddr2 800 (ddr2 is a waste of money, time and performance until you hit ddr2 667...ddr2 800 is supposed to offer much better performance than ddr)

I was also careful in selecting the ram. Corsair is known for quality ram and compatibility. Dual channel is supposed to double memory bandwidth (compared to single-channel). Basically, you can pump more info in and out in the same ammount of time

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:21 am

Kariudo wrote:on this budget, core2 duo is pretty much out of the question (which is why I recommended the athlon x2 socket AM2)

Why? An E6300 costs nearly the same as the X2 you did suggest. From your proposals to the maximum budget is a gap of nearly $100. So there is still room for additional expenses on MoBo and RAM, if necessary. For some bucks more (if at all), you get an kick ass system that rivals much more expensive AMD systems. Check the price for the FX 62. The CPU alone exceeds the budget with 40%.

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:49 am

Kariudo wrote: capture card

Moar liek crapture card. It doesn't even have composite inputs. WTF mate?

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:00 am

Who can read is clearly in the advantage. The specs say:

Ports In:
TV input
S-VHS input
Composite input
Audio input

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:13 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Kariudo wrote:on this budget, core2 duo is pretty much out of the question (which is why I recommended the athlon x2 socket AM2)
Why? An E6300 costs nearly the same as the X2 you did suggest. From your proposals to the maximum budget is a gap of nearly $100. So there is still room for additional expenses on MoBo and RAM, if necessary. For some bucks more (if at all), you get an kick ass system that rivals much more expensive AMD systems. Check the price for the FX 62. The CPU alone exceeds the budget with 40%.

yea thats what im saying
it can compete with the FX-62 , for a fraction of the cost, runs cooler, can achive a 100% OC (mainly means with a good amhsf you can get to where the E6600 is on stock

) , uses less power

but what Kariudo is saying , did anyonme check the prices of ram lately ?
its very expensive ......
so that alone is gonna boste the price to god knows where

the ram im getting alone costs $325 for 2GB (2x 1GB) DDRII-800, cl-4, 4-4-4 - 12

t_0_0_l · Post by **t_0_0_l** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:46 pm

Hi, I am the person building DJ_Ultima's computer. I was looking through all your suggestions and it really helped me find what suits her needs. What she wants is a computer that has a lot of headroom for upgrades in the future; a computer to last her 10+ years. So here is what I found.

CPU
Motherboard
Memory
Video Card

Total (w/shipping): $465.51

The case is rather abitrary and weight is the only thing she cares about. Since she is going for longevity, I'll probably throw in a good power supply. Too many times I have seen those included power supplies die, destroying all the internals. The video card is pretty nice since in addition to having VIVO, it will probably not be obsolete for some time. The motherboard is very nice too, supporting lots of features that will be usefull way down the road (socket AM2, 32GB of RAM, etc.). The CPU is an awesome value (they are having a sale). I just stuck with the memory mentioned before since it is the best stuff I could find. Basically, DJ_Ult wants me to go through a peer review before she goes ahead. I know right now the system doesnt leave a lot of money left, but I was trying to go for the biggest band for the buck. Thanks...

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:30 pm

all those parts are obsolete already

that comp will probably last 5 yrs 7 at most

The E6300 is the best bang for buck, its a $100 more but well worth it

the vid card is fine , are you planning on heavy gaming ?

you can get the buget ECS core2duo mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813135022

the ram I would recomend DDR 800 but there way to expensive so its probably better to stay with 667 if your on a buget

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:31 pm

^sorry about that I though this was a new thread O.o

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:53 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:Who can read is clearly in the advantage. The specs say:

Ports In:
TV input
S-VHS input
Composite input
Audio input

Yeah it has composite input for the video, but not the audio. Also the card is craptaculur. It's only $20, and you get what you pay for.