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Post by Minion » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:36 am

i'm hesitant to go wih a dual core processor. are all of the bugs on these things worked out in the newer models?
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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:50 am

what bugs? (examples please)
I haven't heard anything but OMG THIS CPU ROXORZ WTF WHY HAVENT YOU GOT IT YET...that kinda stuff.

I got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz, 512MB L2 per core)
about the only thing that I heard was that some games didn't like the way that dual-cores work. But teh n00bs didn't try setting the processor affinity.

You can do this from task manager. go to the processes tab and [right] click the process that relates to your game/app that's not working w/2 cores, select set processor affinity, and only check one of the cores.

this makes that process run on only one core (until you change it again).
I've found this to be very helpful for apps that can't properly utilize 2+ cores (or even if they can). I can set dvddecrypter to use one core, and DGindex to another, and once decrypter is done I can save files/clips with vdub...really makes the footage processing go faster
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Post by Minion » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:30 am

little stuff. like the version of dgindex packaged in amv app not working (but the most recent verison working fine)
if 1 thing can go wrong, i would assume other could
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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:14 pm

If you get the most recent versions of everything then you shouldn't have problems.

I think I went through most of the programs on my dual-core rig...I know dvdDecrypter works, pretty sure about DGindex, AviSynth works (2.5.6), vdubmod works, and premiere pro seems to really benefit from the dual-core.

not sure what else comes in the amvapp, but if you run into problems, chances are that it could be solved by setting the processor affinity to 1 core instead of both
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Post by Minion » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:47 pm

i've found some pretty badass deals for under 600 with amd 3400 and 512 ram, but only 128 shared memory for video.
is it really that vital? how would i go about finding out how much is on my current machine?
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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:02 pm

shared memory is not a good thing in this case.
it means that you have less memory to run programs. (the video card takes a chunk of your system memory as its own...and you can't use that part of your ram for other things)

in your range, there are few laptops that offer dedicated video memory.

to find out how much memory your desktop has (on the video card I assume) you can just search for the brand and model (on a site like newegg)

alternitavely, you can right click on the desktop, select properties, hit the settings tab, click the advanced button, and hit the adapter tab
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Post by Minion » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:06 pm

says my geek machine is running 64 MB from my geforce 4 mx integrated gpu.
hell, i've run avid liquid on this mutha' before without it crashing.

am i looking at the wrong thing? says 64mb next to memory size
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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:29 pm

that's right
GeForce 4 is pretty old (IIRC) so 64MB sounds right.

video memory helps with rendering...so if you try to do too much (like play WoW) it'd still run, but you'll probably experience video lag.
So with programs like premiere, you'd probably have some difficulty when rendering your video (especially with lots of effects).
video preview would probably be slow and skip
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Post by Minion » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:05 pm

really, IDGAF about my preview window, so long as it doesn't export fucked up.
i don't play WoW. about the only online game i still play is tribes , which is pretty fuckin' old (1998?)

so lets say, if i just wanted the lappy for editing is 6.5 and vdubmod while im at work or on the road, and internet browsing, would 128mb shared do the trick?

would my video just not render? would some programs not run at all? as i said, i'm not too hardware savy
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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:55 pm

128 shared should do all of that.

most programs don't require that much video ram.

the only problem you'd have to worry about is having enough physical ram to do all of those other things
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... x=0&Go.y=0
if you replace 1 of the 256MB sticks with a 512 stick then you should be fine

of course HP is going to reccomend their own memory only, it'l be awhile before people start testing this model for memory module compatibility. If you stick with well known brands like Corsair and Kingston you'll probably be safe.
(my presario R4012US is running 2 Kingston 512MB sticks that I got off of ebay for ~$35 each)
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