CPU question: Dual Core....

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:51 pm

Joe88 wrote:well there is a board
but its not that good...
only thing is it has both PCI-E and AGP 8x but the PCI-E is clocked at 4x
it also supports both DDR on 2 slots and the other slots are DDR2
a hybrid board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157092

it does work with core 2 duo if you read all the reviews

yeah, with this board (I have an Asus with the same chipset... that, unexplicably, CAN'T use Conroes aka Core 2 Duos, Asus and Asrock are the SAME company, Asus handles the HIGH END! WTF???) You can hold on to your old stuff... but I wouldn't. -oh! in an upgrade, you may, no probably WILL, have to get a new beefy power supply as well- Here's why, and it has to do with the fact that I can't use these Conroe chips even IF my motherboard supported them! They are 1066 chips not 800 or whatever as was previously eluded to by Scintilla (I think) so old DDR PC400 ram just won't do. You either gotta get PREMIUM quality DDR stuff or gotta get DDR2 anyway, so it's POINTLESS! ... unless your a l33t overclocker and already got the primo stuff on you.

On that point, Via based boards typically suck at overclocking, so unless your ram is rated at 533 you're not likeley to get the potential out of even a STOCK conroe. Better you just forget about it and upgrade it all.

ALSO! on the horizon is the Conroe 'D' class chips. THEY ARE NOT DUAL CORES! Don't bother. THOUGH, for like me ;p I'm hopeing they'll work with my dumb assed Asus P5VD1-X Mobo.... Either that or I'll have to go with a P4d 950.... but that's none of your concern ;p

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:43 pm

well, unless the prices come down some more i'm not gona bother upgrading for a while. can't afford a new cpu/motherboard/ddr2/power supply/anything i missed.

Pwolf

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:06 pm

yea
most conror boards are too pricy right now
also ram too $$$

the board I want is $260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131025

ram = $300
PSU = $150
gfx card (x2) = $1000
CPU= $500
case = $180
acessories ect = $100
water cooling = $200

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:49 am

Knowname wrote:Macs can also do XP (you may have to get yourself a copy for the license though... doubt they come with one... and only the pro version supports dual core)

You'll need a copy of WinXP on a CD and a license, which usually comes with the WinXP CD you buy. Unless you already have a WinXP install CD from another computer (legit, I hope). Which in that case, you can buy just a license from Microsoft.

And any version of WinXP (and Win2K) will support dual core. I don't know where the "only Pro supports dual core" myth comes from. Unless you meant only Apple's Mac Pros which is also not true since you can get Core Duos in the iMac and Mac Mini also (and Core 2 Duos in the iMac).

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:53 am

Willen wrote:I don't know where the "only Pro supports dual core" myth comes from.

It's because only WinXP Pro (or Win2k) supports two CPUs. This is often misunderstood, and in addititon there were some BIOS which did report a dual core CPU as two CPUs.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:12 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Willen wrote:I don't know where the "only Pro supports dual core" myth comes from.
It's because only WinXP Pro (or Win2k) supports two CPUs. This is often misunderstood, and in addititon there were some BIOS which did report a dual core CPU as two CPUs.

Ah, people are confusing Dual Core and Dual (Multi) Processor.

Dual Core = One chip package with 2 CPU cores. Single chip socket. CPU cores share the same physical RAM and FSB. Will run with any version of WinXP (Home, Pro, MCE, etc.) or Win2K.

Dual Processor = 2 CPUs, each in their own chip packages. Two chip sockets, one for each processor. Each processor has its own RAM and FSB separate from other processors. Requires WinXP Pro or Win2K.

I'm not sure if the terminology I used is accurate since it still doesn't make it totally clear. And yes, you could have a Dual Processor system with 2 Dual Core processor chips. Which makes essentially, a quad core system. I believe WinXP Pro should be able to run on this system.

Joe88 · Post by **Joe88** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:31 pm

mostly only serer boards use them
because the system will bottle neck with only one system

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:16 am

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Willen wrote:I don't know where the "only Pro supports dual core" myth comes from.
It's because only WinXP Pro (or Win2k) supports two CPUs. This is often misunderstood, and in addititon there were some BIOS which did report a dual core CPU as two CPUs.

yeah, sorry about that, my little bunny friend (;p Willen). I misunderstood. and I meant I doubt Intel Macs come with XP, not XP comes with a license lol. Apparently somebody's not on my wavelength lol...