Problems with Eazy VCD

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:46 am

Kariudo wrote:unfortunately it's often not that easy, if you want dvd quality it'l take some work.

But depending on the series, even "dvd quality" can suck (which then takes more work to clean it up and appear good)

EADFAG is a very good guide, and every program mentioned is free (minus the editing program...but you already have that)

My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:55 am

topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info

Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:11 pm

Willen wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info
Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.

Actually my editer is Adobe Premiere Elements 1.0 (thinking of upgrading) I did wonder if my new LCD moniter somehow made it look like that. I'm working with uncompressed because I have plenty of space at the moment, however I'm still trying to find a way to load it into the program. I'm ripping some new files now and am going to see if Elements will let me load them in.

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:11 pm

topgamer101 wrote:
Willen wrote:
topgamer101 wrote:My old program would rip it full dvd on one file and on my laptop would make it look dvd perfect. But if these new progams won't let me load the file into my editer then they are pretty useless to me. I'll do some reading but if I can't find a solution I probably won't use them.

Thanks anyway for the info
Don't delude yourself, VCD, SVCD and the other VCD-varients that Eazy VCD produce aren't "DVD perfect". This is why on your new desktop computer and LCD monitor the resultant video "isn't very good" with "those boxes" (macroblocking).

What program are you using for editing? I assume WMM since you mention mpeg and wmv files (which imports MPEG-1 (VCD), WMV, and AVI files*). Since DVDs contain VOB files (wrapped MPEG-2 video and audio) you'll need to convert them to something WMM can use. MPEG-1 isn't considered very good quality nowadays (as you noticed), and I don't know of any free DVD-to-WMV converters (not that I recommend using vanilla WMV for footage), AVI files with video encoded in an editing-friendly codec are the way to go (Huffyuv, Lagarith, or for the people with massive amounts of HDD space - Uncompressed).

As Kariudo mentioned, for quality video you will have to do some work. But the results are generally worth it and after a few times, doing the steps detailed here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... ogetb.html become easy.
Actually my editer is Adobe Premiere Elements 1.0 (thinking of upgrading) I did wonder if my new LCD moniter somehow made it look like that. I'm working with uncompressed because I have plenty of space at the moment, however I'm still trying to find a way to load it into the program. I'm ripping some new files now and am going to see if Elements will let me load them in.

I've tried using the compresses that you suggested before, but no matter how I do this proccess, it will not load into my editing program. Causes alot of frustration honstly. It's great that it's good quality video, but useless if I can't edit it.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:12 pm

you're in virtualdub(/mod) right?

when you find a clip that you want, you go to file-save as.
unless you are saving the footage as uncompressed you are using a codec to encode your footage.

if that codec is divx or xvid, your avi files won't work in your editing program.
you should use a lossless codec like Lagairth or HuffYuv (get the pre-built dll, and be sure to read the page so you know how to install it)
this tells you how to make clips in virtualdubmod, please read through this thoroughly (for what that last page didn't cover, this one should)

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:42 pm

Kariudo wrote:you're in virtualdub(/mod) right?

when you find a clip that you want, you go to file-save as.
unless you are saving the footage as uncompressed you are using a codec to encode your footage.

if that codec is divx or xvid, your avi files won't work in your editing program.
you should use a lossless codec like Lagairth or HuffYuv (get the pre-built dll, and be sure to read the page so you know how to install it)
this tells you how to make clips in virtualdubmod, please read through this thoroughly (for what that last page didn't cover, this one should)

for the 5th time (i think) I've been using the codecs that have been told to me. The program just doesn't let it get loaded in. I'm probably going to try uninstalling it and see if reinstalling helps. If not then I'll continue using eazy VCD and find a method to fix the boxes.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:49 pm

if you were using one of the codecs then you souldn't be having problems with importing the files into premiere elements

to confirm which codec the clips are encoded with go to the clip, right click and click properties.
hit the summary tab and click on advanced. it'l give you some infromation about the clip including what codec it's encoded with.

if it doesn't show you that info, you can use a program like Gspot to get that info

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:42 am

If the AVI files are actually Uncompressed RGB, Premiere Elements should definitely take them. The only possible reason I can come up with for PE not importing AVIs is that the video clips may have to be in RGB32 colorspace.

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:04 pm

Willen wrote:If the AVI files are actually Uncompressed RGB, Premiere Elements should definitely take them. The only possible reason I can come up with for PE not importing AVIs is that the video clips may have to be in RGB32 colorspace.

Well they aren't uncompressed anymore. I calculated the amount of space needed for teh full season of Gungrave. I came up only a tad bit short. I'm going to check both your guys methods and see if it changes anything.

Thanks for your assistance by the way, very nice of you.

topgamer101 · Post by **topgamer101** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:08 pm

Well it's in Lagarith (however you spell it) codec. I did both of them and it wouldn't load. Again it's not that the program refuses to load it, it just gets to the part where it tries to load it and the bar never moves.

I'll look into the color thing next and see what I find.