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[Shazzy]

In my experience, most You-Tubers who like their AMV exposure come to appreciate the quality found on the Org.

[Onibokusu]

you wouldn't have to download the video to view it.

Actually you are downloading the video data either. The difference to the Orgs download - you don't have it on your computer after that. And that's what really sucks. If you want to watch it again you're downloading all the data again and you have always to be connected to the internet if you wanna watch it.

1. their download speed might totaly suck,

If their download speed sucks, they can't stream either. Streaming needs a large bandwith, since the data has to be transfered in realtime. I have a 1 MBit/s DSL connection, and I encountered choppy playback at the most infamous streaming site. And that with a 320x240 shitty quality video. So what do you think would happen to someone with a 56 K modem connection?

2. Their computer might not be able to play it,

This can happen with streams too, if no streaming capable media player is installed. Of course, not very likely at a Windows machine, but Windows isn't the only OS.

3. When they finally download it it might slow down their computer.

How does a downloaded vid slow down the computer? That's absolute nonsense.

The only advantage of streaming is that you can watch it immediatly, don't have to wait until the download is finished.

With the download speed it would take less time to stream the video on the site then download it where it might fail. On a 56k modem it may take a long time but it won't fail due to the file taking too long (you can't use download accelerators on a-m-v.org because of the server)

With the "slowing down" its not utter nonsense. I have a computer with alot of stuff on it and sometimes downloading big files will slow down the computer with the other stuff I am down (MSN, Gaia, uploading files etc etc)

[Keeper of Hellfire]

On a 56k modem it may take a long time but it won't fail due to the file taking too long

Again, streaming is only suitable for broad band connections. On a 56 K Modem it would fail at all. Seems like you never tried it. But I remember the times when I tried. 160 x 120 pixel size, 5...6 fps average frame rate with pauses of seconds, mono audio with "quality" worse than through a telephone line. That's absolutely not suitable for an AMV.

I have a computer with alot of stuff on it and sometimes downloading big files will slow down the computer with the other stuff I am down (MSN, Gaia, uploading files etc etc)

That's an issue of slowing down your internet connection, not of slowing down your computer. The CPU-load caused by the download is mostly not remarkable.

[Zarxrax]

Keeper of Hellfire, youtube doesnt stream videos, it progressively downloads them. It's no problem for a 56k user to watch, they just have to wait longer on it to download first. For people on broadband, it usually downloads fast enough that you can start watching it almost immediately.

[Keeper of Hellfire]

Ok. I didn't know that it works that way. But than I don't see that much advantage for a modem user at all. The slow speed means he had to wait until the download is nearly completed before he can begin to watch. That means he can't even use it as fast preview to decide if it's worth to download at all. And after that he hasn't a copy, so if he wants to show someone else or watch it again he has to wait that long again. And, since modem connections often either are paid by transfer volume or time, he has to pay again. The only advantage that may remain for a modem user is that because of only beeing 320x240 and shitty quality the size is smaller than of a HQ version hosted at the org.

[Onibokusu]

Ok. I didn't know that it works that way. But than I don't see that much advantage for a modem user at all. The slow speed means he had to wait until the download is nearly completed before he can begin to watch. That means he can't even use it as fast preview to decide if it's worth to download at all. And after that he hasn't a copy, so if he wants to show someone else or watch it again he has to wait that long again. And, since modem connections often either are paid by transfer volume or time, he has to pay again. The only advantage that may remain for a modem user is that because of only beeing 320x240 and shitty quality the size is smaller than of a HQ version hosted at the org.

Also I wanted to add something else. You say that you have to download again and again from a-m-v.org to view a video mre than once. This is not true, you must have a setting on your coputer which does this or something. I have videos I have downloaded a month ago that I still have and I have view more than once than without continually downloading the video.

Some examples are Initial Dream and Megaman Hero.

[Keeper of Hellfire]

You say that you have to download again and again from a-m-v.org to view a video mre than once.

No. Read again. I say you have to download from youtube or similar sites again if you want to watch it again. It's the advantage of downloading from the Org that you can keep a copy on your harddisk.

[Onibokusu]

also some to add Keeper of Hellfire.

It is not your decision to what goes on the site and what doesn't, it is the Site creators and Site Admins decision to what goes on the site, this is mearly a site "feedback" forum. Not a debating forum on what you think is right or wrong for the site, this was a thing I was thinking of. Many people who go to Youtube and other Streaming sites are looking for ways for people to view their videos not for quality but for the art of the video. After all people who love video games don't play for the graphics but for the story and such. Thats why so many people play retro or old video games.

After all I mean anime didn't start on the greatest quality (pokemon, Sailor Moon etc etc) but people still love them. even today people watch old anime from along time ago because of the story and such.

[Onibokusu]

You say that you have to download again and again from a-m-v.org to view a video mre than once.

No. Read again. I say you have to download from hosatchel or similar sites again if you want to watch it again. It's the advantage of downloading from the Org that you can keep a copy on your harddisk.

oh I see..I just remembered something and though you meant from the org. but still..read my last post

[Keeper of Hellfire]

It is not your decision to what goes on the site and what doesn't, it is the Site creators and Site Admins decision to what goes on the site, this is mearly a site "feedback" forum. Not a debating forum on what you think is right or wrong for the site, this was a thing I was thinking of.

That confuses me a bit! So you're saying, with opening a thread here you can say what you think is right or wrong for this site, but in reply I can't? You should take lessons in freedom of speech. And about decision making either. It's important to know the pro's and con's to make decisions.

Many people who go to hosatchel and other Streaming sites are looking for ways for people to view their videos not for quality but for the art of the video.

Noone forces you to upload your AMV's at the org. You can upload them to youtube and link to it in your video profile. As you can see it's rarely used. So you can tell how "interested" AMV creators are to stream their work.