what do you guys make of this?

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:27 am

i believe he paid something though

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:57 am

Eva-Fan wrote:Yeah, nothins free these days without a catch.

"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?

Coderjo · Post by **Coderjo** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:07 pm

godix wrote:Interesting note, aren't most of those programs released under a license that requires they be provided free of charge?

I'm not sure about all of them, but a few of those programs are GPL-licensed. The GPL doesn't state anything about not charging. What the GPL basicly boils down to is that anyone with a binary copy is entitled to a copy of the source code, in machine-readable form, for that binary, and after recieving the source, is free to do anything they want with it, as long as any binaries they release also follow the same terms. There is nothing saying you cannot charge for the binary, and there is nothing saying that someone who receives the source can't just turn around a provide a binary and the source for free.

Gepetto · Post by **Gepetto** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:26 pm

How do people like this sleep at night?

devilmaykickass wrote:"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?

Did the serpent charge Eve for the apple?

Coderjoe wrote:
godix wrote:Interesting note, aren't most of those programs released under a license that requires they be provided free of charge?
I'm not sure about all of them, but a few of those programs are GPL-licensed. The GPL doesn't state anything about not charging. What the GPL basicly boils down to is that anyone with a binary copy is entitled to a copy of the source code, in machine-readable form, for that binary, and after recieving the source, is free to do anything they want with it, as long as any binaries they release also follow the same terms. There is nothing saying you cannot charge for the binary, and there is nothing saying that someone who receives the source can't just turn around a provide a binary and the source for free.

And they can charge for it, it's not forbidden. The lack of a prohibition for charging comes from the fact that you can obtain the software for free with the original manufacturer on their website, and probably from a lot of other websites as well. No one would buy the paid version if they knew they could get the exact same software for free at the official website. So if you pay for it, you're either lazy, ignorant or stupid and deserve to be ripped off.

I disagree, but if they let you do everything else with the software, why would they forbid you from making a profit out of it? I bet that it wouldn't stand in court, anyways.

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:22 am

Gepetto wrote:How do people like this sleep at night?

devilmaykickass wrote:"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?
Did the serpent charge Eve for the apple?

devilmaykickass wrote:"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:48 am

Coderjoe wrote:
godix wrote:Interesting note, aren't most of those programs released under a license that requires they be provided free of charge?
I'm not sure about all of them, but a few of those programs are GPL-licensed. The GPL doesn't state anything about not charging. What the GPL basicly boils down to is that anyone with a binary copy is entitled to a copy of the source code, in machine-readable form, for that binary, and after recieving the source, is free to do anything they want with it, as long as any binaries they release also follow the same terms. There is nothing saying you cannot charge for the binary, and there is nothing saying that someone who receives the source can't just turn around a provide a binary and the source for free.

Yeah -- I wonder if these guys point out that the source code is available, though. I don't see it on the website, but AFAIK that's not (yet) violating section 3 of the GNU GPL.

Blender has actually run into this before.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:50 am

Minion wrote:ready for your daily dose of asinine?

https://www.thinkall.com/creative.htm
read the product descriptions for each.
just re-packaged freeware. vdub, bender, gimp, audacity.

it's free, but still, why? just to have a box for it?
if your on the internet to send away for the cd, can't you just download it instead of waiting for snail mail?

Some obvious possibilities:

- Warranty protection.
- Technical support.
- Paying for custom development. (I got paid for this about two years ago.)
- Additional documentation. (This probably falls under "technical support".)

I'm not saying that Think All Publishing offers any of this. All are valid, though, and there are some companies that do just that. (see: Red Hat Software, Cygnus Support (now part of Red Hat Software), IBM, Google)

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:51 am

trythil wrote: I'm not saying that Think All Publishing offers any of this. All are valid, though, and there are some companies that do just that. (see: Red Hat Software, Cygnus Support (now part of Red Hat Software), IBM, Google)

+ Canonical

Not sure how I forgot that one. You might say that they're the canonical example of a business based around supporting Free software.

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:19 am

devilmaykickass wrote:"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?

This is true. You gotta move that mouse like there's no tomorrow to hit those ducks and win the free iPod.

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:54 am

requiett wrote:
devilmaykickass wrote:"These days"? When was shit ever free without a catch?
This is true. You gotta move that mouse like there's no tomorrow to hit those ducks and win the free iPod.

god.of.sarcasm.

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